Deadhead Question

Coming back from RNO after the races in '02 the flights were full and the standby list long (go figure). The agent saw the "CJ" next to my name on the list (AA Sabre code for Cabin j/s authorized) and asked if I'd take a cabin j/s to get another non-rev on. Gee, where would I rather be... in the nice cavernous aft galley of the 737 with my legs stretched out chillin' with all the elbow room I could dream of, ooooooor stuck in a middle seat in row 38 squished between 2 pot-bellied middle aged men fighting me for the armrests. I'll take the jumpseat, please!

That lower-priority non rev did me a favor! He and the agent were all, "Oh thank you! Now I"ll get on!" and I was like, "No, really, it's okay, I don't mind taking the j/s, really."
 
MQAAord said:
Coming back from RNO after the races in '02 the flights were full and the standby list long (go figure). The agent saw the "CJ" next to my name on the list (AA Sabre code for Cabin j/s authorized) and asked if I'd take a cabin j/s to get another non-rev on. Gee, where would I rather be... in the nice cavernous aft galley of the 737 with my legs stretched out chillin' with all the elbow room I could dream of, ooooooor stuck in a middle seat in row 38 squished between 2 pot-bellied middle aged men fighting me for the armrests. I'll take the jumpseat, please!

That lower-priority non rev did me a favor! He and the agent were all, "Oh thank you! Now I"ll get on!" and I was like, "No, really, it's okay, I don't mind taking the j/s, really."
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I do wish that pilots could occupy cabin jumpseats on AA.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I do wish that pilots could occupy cabin jumpseats on AA.
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IF there's no AA or AE F/A wanting the j/s there NO reason why a pilot should not be able to sit there. I do think that AA F/As should have first dibs on an AA F/A j/s (I think that goes without saying), BUT why on earth send out a plane with an available seating location leaving a pilot behind who would be a perfectly safe occupant of that seat.

When I was at Eagle, for an Eagle F/A to ride an AA F/A j/s was a fireable offense! Seriously, we signed paperwork in new hire school saying we understood that if we rode an AA F/A j/s we WOULD be fired. I do not know what had brought that on, or WHY that rule was in effect, but there were AE F/As fired for riding AA F/A jumpseats. That rule has since changed, and Eagle F/As CAN now ride AA F/A jumpseats, but it hasn't always been the case.
 
Cav said:
Hmm, sorry to hear that. What was the issue? I've found our agents to be fairly accommodating. Certainly better than CAL's EWR agents.
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Delta's computers have basically dropped the DCI agreements out and it is up to each DCI carrier to go in and select who is on their list. CAL's computers don't even check the UAL list. They are trying to get this fixed but nothing moves quick in IT. Trying to tell a gate agent how to go into SHARES and search for the agreement is a 50/50 prospect. Also if you don't have an agreement with Delta they won't even let you ride back. NWA back in the day would atleast put us in the back. We've been trying to get on CAL's list and DL's list for a few years now with no luck. Despite having agreements with the majority of other regionals and legacy carries including FEDEX and UPS.
 
MQAAord said:
IF there's no AA or AE F/A wanting the j/s there NO reason why a pilot should not be able to sit there. I do think that AA F/As should have first dibs on an AA F/A j/s (I think that goes without saying), BUT why on earth send out a plane with an available seating location leaving a pilot behind who would be a perfectly safe occupant of that seat.

When I was at Eagle, for an Eagle F/A to ride an AA F/A j/s was a fireable offense! Seriously, we signed paperwork in new hire school saying we understood that if we rode an AA F/A j/s we WOULD be fired. I do not know what had brought that on, or WHY that rule was in effect, but there were AE F/As fired for riding AA F/A jumpseats. That rule has since changed, and Eagle F/As CAN now ride AA F/A jumpseats, but it hasn't always been the case.
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Not sure what that is all about. The last i heard a lot of airlines don't want pilots or offilne FA's in the FA j/s because they are not trainied on the door. To me that is mgmt bs because if the S hit the fan who would you want at the door a pax or a crewmember from another airline. I think the crewmember would have a better chance at assisting in the emergency than jow blow running up from 1A.

just my .02 worth
 
I know the commands but some agents don't like the fact a pilot may something they don't or we are trying to pull something over on them...
 
cmill said:
I had this happen to me non rev. There was one seat in the back, and the JS. I wasn't cass so all I could take was the back, the other guy could take the JS, but wouldn't, even though he knew I would get bumped. Luckily the CA strongly encouraged the guy to take the JS.

BTW, I knew what the rules were and wasn't going to cause a big fuss, you would just think some people would have some courtesy, especially for just an hour flight.
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I made a thread about this last year, since pretty much the exact same scenario but add to the fact the destination airport was screwed up AND all the airlines computers had crashed so it was a total cluster
fudge. I ended up being late for work by a good bit because of it. Kind of rubbed me the wrong way since I'd been talking with the dude at the gate beforehand, but if he'd have gotten in trouble for it I guess I can't really fault him. Fortunately it was my one late show in 2 years and the managers like me so I never heard anything about it.
 
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