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///AMG said:
We also don't have steam gauges, so there is that as well :)
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That is true - man, you F-18 guys are really candy-ass panty-wearers. If you ever want to REALLY fly, come to KC and we can go fly a Champ or something...not sure you could handle a Luscombe! :bounce:
 
WacoFan said:
...not sure you could handle a Luscombe! :bounce:
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Why does everyone think that Luscombes are hard planes to land? Don't get me wrong, I like the fact that lesser pilots gawp in awe of me as I smoothly slip my 8E into a perferct three pointer, but the truth is, they are not that difficult.
Or maybe I really am a pilot's pilot!
 
Cptnchia said:
Why does everyone think that Luscombes are hard planes to land? Don't get me wrong, I like the fact that lesser pilots gawp in awe of me as I smoothly slip my 8E into a perferct three pointer, but the truth is, they are not that difficult.
Or maybe I really am a pilot's pilot!
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I don't personally. It is an old wives tale though. I have heard some old-timers talk (not the wives-tales believer-types) and they said that some of the earlier Luscombe's (pre-46) had a weakness in the gear-legs that would cause them to fold up under side-loads. I saw this happen once and it wasn't a ground-loop either - just a heavy crosswind. That said, I think people think that airplanes that do exactly what you tell them to do, when you tell them to do it (Luscombe, Pitt's, etc) - they find that kind of behavior "squirrely". Curtis Pitts said "There are no squirrely airplanes, only squirrely pilots" - and he may have been right on. I love the Luscombe and am glad people are scared because I'm going to buy one.

Mostly I was making the point about what candy-ass panty wearers those F-18 guys are! :bounce:
 
You are right about the pre 46s. That is why the Stiflex gear legs were produced. They were beefed up to overcome the side loads. Mine is a 47 with the original gear and flying wire braces. Some people replace rhe flying wire with the ski gear tube cross braces too.

You will love the Luscombe! It will do exactly what you want it to do. The issue I think is that you have to "fly" it all the time. No slack taxing allowd. It does have one quirk. With a length of 20 feet, and a wing span of 35 feet, some people have lost control on the base to final turn. They get too slow and overcontrol and end up in a stall/spin.
 
Cptnchia said:
You are right about the pre 46s. That is why the Stiflex gear legs were produced. They were beefed up to overcome the side loads. Mine is a 47 with the original gear and flying wire braces. Some people replace rhe flying wire with the ski gear tube cross braces too.

You will love the Luscombe! It will do exactly what you want it to do. The issue I think is that you have to "fly" it all the time. No slack taxing allowd. It does have one quirk. With a length of 20 feet, and a wing span of 35 feet, some people have lost control on the base to final turn. They get too slow and overcontrol and end up in a stall/spin.
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I would also say that Don Luscombe, prior to Luscombe, had a reputation for building "hot" machines that people groundlooped frequently - Monocoupes and notable the D145. Then, he moved onto the Luscombe Phantom which generally has a reputation as a groundloop machine. I think that mystique just carried on to all Luscombes.

EDIT: But now, much as I didn't want to, the thread is becoming about me, cool airplanes and such. Because I'm charming. But let's get back on track - which is why jhugz is a tool on the interwebs but very nice in person. Let's fix that for him - like an intervention. Or a blanket party. Either way - but let's not let him go down the Aloft road of self-immolation.
 
Few of us are god's gift to aviation. Last time I flew a light single was 2 summers ago (which was also the first time I had done so in a few years), just flying around with my old man in his Bonanza. Think I posted this previously, but it was the first time in 15+ years of flying the thing that he actually let me land it. I alternately floated and bounced the thing 2k feet down the runway. After getting the thing under control, I look over and the crazy 74 year old man is laughing his face off and just tells me "kid, stick to your fancy jets". I had forgotten how much modern jets baby you into feeling really good about yourself. And with that said, bring the tailwheel on, I would love to tame the beast :)
 
///AMG said:
Few of us are god's gift to aviation. Last time I flew a light single was 2 summers ago (which was also the first time I had done so in a few years), just flying around with my old man in his Bonanza. Think I posted this previously, but it was the first time in 15+ years of flying the thing that he actually let me land it. I alternately floated and bounced the thing 2k feet down the runway. After getting the thing under control, I look over and the crazy 74 year old man is laughing his face off and just tells me "kid, stick to your fancy jets". I had forgotten how much modern jets baby you into feeling really good about yourself. And with that said, bring the tailwheel on, I would love to tame the beast :)
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At least the gear was down! ;)

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