Let's hear stories of the good old days.

I'm way too young to have done any flying myself during the "good old days," but I definitely have a great memory of being a passenger as a 3-year old in 1985. It's one of my only memories from before the age of 6 or so. It was my first time on an airplane. A USAir 737 from CRW to CLT, then CLT to SAN. On the CLT leg, my dad asked the stew if he could take me up to see the cockpit and meet the pilots. Being as this was "the good old days," that was no problem in flight. The old gray haired captain who's long retired by now told me all about the instruments and switches and let me look out the windows, then he gave me a pair of plastic wings.

That was it. I was hooked. I don't know whether that gray haired captain did me a great favor by hooking me on aviation, or lead me down the primrose path. Guess I'll find out at the end of another 25 years or so. :)

It's a shame that we can't let people come up front nowadays. A lot has been lost in aviation following 9/11.
 
It was the same when I was a kid. My Dad took my brother and I everywhere around LAX.....the control tower, ops, the hangars, the crew lounge, to lunch with him and his fellow Captains. Just watching them and listening to their stories was wonderful. We used to get to sit in the cockpits of the hangared planes and he'd explain the instruments and controls to me and when we flew on some of his trips, we would take turns sitting upfront with him, part of the way and he have us reading charts and checking the fuel gauges and little things. I used to love that part so much. I remember when he would let me listen in on some radio transmissions and how amazing and magical that all just seemed.

I always wondered how many little kids were inspired to become pilots after visiting a cockpit while in flight, because I have heard so many, many pilots tell of their first airplane ride and visiting up front and how it impacted them. I always got such a kick out of that when I had kids on flights make the visit. I always hoped that some of them might go on to fly. When my Dad would come to school in his uniform on one of those Dad career type days, man, I was so proud. It felt better than being a member of the First Family or something.

He started teaching me about the stars and wx and flying before I started the first grade. We spent countless hours building aircraft models together. He'd bring home old instruments and various little parts that were being scrapped and give them to my brother who loved taking them apart and putting them back together again. That was a huge treat for us. We had all sorts of little parts and crap all over our bedroom and the family room.

And he would bring myself, my brother and my sister little souvenirs from most of the trips that he took. I still have a lot of them and so do they. They were our little treasures. I dreamed about being able to fly all over the place and see and experience what he did. Really the best of times. I was able to do much of the same with my eldest son thankfully, as my Dad had done for me and that just is still so special between the two of us. We reminisce often about it as I did with my Dad.
 
I'm not old, but I still have a boarding card from a TWA flight I took from JFK-CDG back in 95 at the age of 6. My first ever plane ride in the way back of a 747 with the same flight number as the doomed flight that crashed off the coast of Long Island about a year later (800). I sorta remember the flight....It was really bumpy and I was scared, but the F/A with the awesome 90's hair do did her best to re-assure me. I wasn't hooked on aviation yet, but I remember loving the take off roll.
 
That is a wonderful story. You can't imagine how many pilots have saved something like that and kept it all of their lives. That card meant something special to you. Perhaps more than you had any idea of originally. Something about that flight, touched you and influenced you in some way at some point even on a sub conscious level, I bet. Inspiration is found in funny places.

Scott deserves a cold one for starting this thread. It's really brought back some wonderful memories and feelings for me. It's put me in a pretty happy state of mind right about now. And that says a lot considering the conversation I had this morning with my accountant and how much I will be writing a check to the Feds for this week. lol
 
That is a wonderful story. You can't imagine how many pilots have saved something like that and kept it all of their lives. That card meant something special to you. Perhaps more than you had any idea of originally. Something about that flight, touched you and influenced you in some way at some point even on a sub conscious level, I bet. Inspiration is found in funny places.

Scott deserves a cold one for starting this thread. It's really brought back some wonderful memories and feelings for me. It's put me in a pretty happy state of mind right about now. And that says a lot considering the conversation I had this morning with my accountant and how much I will be writing a check to the Feds for this week. lol
It was saved by my Mom and given to me about 10 or so years ago. Funny thing is...I was terrified of airplanes until I was about 11 or so. In fact, the turbulance on the TWA flight comfirmed my fear for another 5 years (when I took my next flight, a UA flight to MXP that actually remember in detail-it was that flight that made me want to become a pilot) I lived right under the approach path of 27R into PHL growing up and I remember staying up all night afraid the planes were going to crash into my house
 
Well since we are telling stories, I can recall one about a certain Piedmont Airlines aircraft that was completely booked with no seats available. There was a non-rev that needed to get on. The non-rev got on and took the seat in the lavatory. Those were the days.....

Joe
 
Scott deserves a cold one for starting this thread. It's really brought back some wonderful memories and feelings for me. It's put me in a pretty happy state of mind right about now.

.....Drop in to the Florida shooting thread, and we can make sure that gets reversed quickly.

haha! kidding!!! :D

Was a different time for the airlines. I was mentioning in the Spirit thread how, since then, we've seen a Walmart-ization of the airlines, where service and other amenities have become somewhat of an exception, rather than the norm. Joe Sixpack the passenger wants fares for nothing, and some airlines will do whatever they can to accomodate.

It does beg the question though. These "ultra low cost" airlines.....if one follows the business mantra of "you get what you pay for", will quality go down directionly-proportional to price? We've seen these days that it doesn't always seem to be so on the upwards side, but is it going that way on the downward side to with "ultra low" fares, even in terms of just a basic ride that one is paying for?
 
On the military flying side re the 'good ole days,' in '78 a buddy and I took our RF-4s from Pete Field (Colorado Springs) and flew VFR low level INS direct to Hill AFB, UT with a side trip down Bear Lake for water rooster tails. No VR or IR routes, never talked to a sole until on initial. We didn't think anything of it at the time. Guess the military would frown on that today.
 
On the military flying side re the 'good ole days,' in '78 a buddy and I took our RF-4s from Pete Field (Colorado Springs) and flew VFR low level INS direct to Hill AFB, UT with a side trip down Bear Lake for water rooster tails. No VR or IR routes, never talked to a sole until on initial. We didn't think anything of it at the time. Guess the military would frown on that today.

hehehe, just slightly. :)

Like the Reno ANG RF-4s that got in trouble for the rooster tails on the lake back in the '90s.

I still got yelled at as a FAC for, instead of doing a formal in-person or phone brief with my assigned fighters, Id leave a yellow sticky note at their ops desk with my callsign, airspace where I'll be, a frequency or two, a check-in time, an altitude for them, and everything else will be given on-scene.

Here:
http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/for-you-miked-rf-4-video.121319/#post-1679456
 
Well since we are telling stories, I can recall one about a certain Piedmont Airlines aircraft that was completely booked with no seats available. There was a non-rev that needed to get on. The non-rev got on and took the seat in the lavatory. Those were the days.....

Joe
Haha, the I work with the non-rev in question. Although I'm sure back then it happened more than once.
 
My first airplane ride was aboard a NW 747 to Taiwan in 1992, I was 11 years old. I remember being mesmerized by the whole experience. We flew over Kodiak island, I remember calling it Kodak island trying to some how relate Kodiak island to the new camera I had purchased with Kodak film. I asked my grandmother, "Is that where they make Kodak film?"

I did not see the flight deck for one reason or another. But the flight attendant presented us with a NW 747 desk model. I wonder what ever happen to that thing. Probably lost or destroyed in a move or suffered the fate of a toy.

I remember saying I wanted to be a pilot when I grow up. Well here it is 20 years later. I have my ticket, 750 hours flying time......, and I manage the ramp at Wake Island. Every day I dream about returning to the air.
 
On the flight attendants topic, Cebu Pacific has some interesting rules...



It should be pointed out though that they hire male flight attendants as well. :D
 
HVYMETALDRVR said:
On the flight attendants topic, Cebu Pacific has some interesting rules...

YouTube Video

It should be pointed out though that they hire male flight attendants as well. :D

It looks like the good old days are still alive and well, just not in the US. I took a flight on Volaris last week I'm going to describe here soon. It felt like maybe 1980s in the US. I fly with them tomorrow and will take some pictures.

I'm not sure I want to see the male strippers, I mean flight attendants perform that dance.
 
hehehe, just slightly. :)

Like the Reno ANG RF-4s that got in trouble for the rooster tails on the lake back in the '90s.

I guess one of the NVANG RF-4s in the later years dragged a fair length of barbed wire fence back to Reno after making rooster tails out at Pyramid.
 
On the military flying side re the 'good ole days,' in '78 a buddy and I took our RF-4s from Pete Field (Colorado Springs) and flew VFR low level INS direct to Hill AFB, UT with a side trip down Bear Lake for water rooster tails. No VR or IR routes, never talked to a sole until on initial. We didn't think anything of it at the time. Guess the military would frown on that today.

My Dad used to reminisce about the 60's and how military flying changed, flying under the golden gate bridge, up canyons in Arizona, taking off from El Toro and being just about transonic when over the beach. I guess things changed a lot from his entry in the early sixties. Still I would trade just about anything for shot to earn a commission and wings of gold (or silver)..... ;)
 
I learned to fly in New Orleans, when I wasn't flying i was racing sailboats. When I was just a student pilot I raced on a guys boat. I did not know much about him other than he was a fun guy to hang out in the yacht club with. Turns out he was a CBP pilot. On the downwind leg he let me helm the boat and started telling stories. He flew it all helicopters to citations. Over the years I heard some great stories of the good old days from him.

They'd find out about a good restaurant on a field somewhere and go there for lunch, under the guise of training. "We need to do some x-country training in the citation." or panther Navajo for shorter trips. They'd all pile in the plane and fly somewhere for a good meal, maybe shoot some approaches along the way. The planes were also used for cross country road trips, with meals and hotels paid for.

This story from him was when he was jumpseating back when the flight attendants were retired at old age and before STDs were invented. He was jumpseating in a 3 crew cockpit, when comparing notes found the crew had been through 10 divorces.
 
It was the same when I was a kid. My Dad took my brother and I everywhere around LAX.....the control tower, ops, the hangars, the crew lounge, to lunch with him and his fellow Captains. Just watching them and listening to their stories was wonderful. We used to get to sit in the cockpits of the hangared planes and he'd explain the instruments and controls to me and when we flew on some of his trips, we would take turns sitting upfront with him, part of the way and he have us reading charts and checking the fuel gauges and little things. I used to love that part so much. I remember when he would let me listen in on some radio transmissions and how amazing and magical that all just seemed.

I always wondered how many little kids were inspired to become pilots after visiting a cockpit while in flight, because I have heard so many, many pilots tell of their first airplane ride and visiting up front and how it impacted them. I always got such a kick out of that when I had kids on flights make the visit. I always hoped that some of them might go on to fly. When my Dad would come to school in his uniform on one of those Dad career type days, man, I was so proud. It felt better than being a member of the First Family or something.

He started teaching me about the stars and wx and flying before I started the first grade. We spent countless hours building aircraft models together. He'd bring home old instruments and various little parts that were being scrapped and give them to my brother who loved taking them apart and putting them back together again. That was a huge treat for us. We had all sorts of little parts and crap all over our bedroom and the family room.

And he would bring myself, my brother and my sister little souvenirs from most of the trips that he took. I still have a lot of them and so do they. They were our little treasures. I dreamed about being able to fly all over the place and see and experience what he did. Really the best of times. I was able to do much of the same with my eldest son thankfully, as my Dad had done for me and that just is still so special between the two of us. We reminisce often about it as I did with my Dad.

Similar story here, I think the moment I really first caught the bug when I was about four, and we went to meet my Dad at LAX. For some reason we needed to go between concourses so we went down some stairs to flight operations (I think, a little fuzzy there) and walked out to the ramp. I remember this part vividly however, he grabbed my hand very firmly and took me out onto the ramp and across from I think the 70's to the 60's. It was a beautiful bright day and there were two National Sun Kings, a DC-10 and 727 I am sure, glistening in the sun out at the end of the terminal, a row of tulip adorned 727s ahead. From that point on I wanted all the stuff, airplane toys, hats, manuals, editions of Air Line Pilot. Didn't matter, pilots and airplanes? Give it to me.

Sometimes on a Friday night I would be tucked into bed and he would stick his head in my door, hat and jacket on, "Hey, you want to go to work with me?" Somehow the 30 minutes it took for me to get up for school would be reduced to about five, bag in hand and dressed perfectly for pass riding dress code....:) I would walk on air next to the crew, SKY GODS! such pride, I know what you are saying, I felt like the first family would stand aside. Nothing like sitting in first class, being pampered by the FAs, and getting to hear your Dad on channel 9!!!! He would always set up trips for my Boy Scout troop, we would go to LAX tower, approach, go to a parked airplane and talk on the PA and play with all the switches. So many memories, standing in the tower watching a Qantas SP take off over the Pacific or the logs at the end of the runway at MCAS El Toro, F-4s in burner taking off into the sunset right next to you.....yeah....

Oh, and the stuff from around the world, always something kind of cool and unique, a Niagara Falls thingy from Buffalo, a Buddha from Bangkok. Sometimes it would be some cool autographed something, photo, hat, poster, whatever from celebrities who would come up to visit the cockpit.

Camaraderie, feeling a part of the greater family, later on, traveling around on passes while in college, sometimes things would get a little dicey....without asking it seemed a crew member from any airline, didn't matter, Northwest, Ecuatoriana, Thai, British, they would see you sitting and know "ugh, this one is super full, that kid is staying the night...." and sometimes come over and at least offer condolences, "good luck" or "call this hotel, tell them xyz, you will get the best rate near the airport." I always knew if I really had to, I could find a crew and at least get good advice. Fortunately I never had to. I always figured it was a feeling of being in it together, sometime their kids would be traveling through the USA and they hoped some friendly UA, AA or other pilot would be looking around the lounge area and notice if their kid was going to be trapped and lend some advice. Lots of pilots in my neighborhood, great bbqs, checking out cars, talking about flying, layovers, vacation houses, hanging out on their boats, roasting at the beach....

I remember '85. Those guys pretty much shut that airline down. My parents friend from AirCal said he thought they could never do that at AirCal, they didn't have the feeling of something bigger than themselves. I dont know about that, I do know those guys of that generation were a real special breed. Hanging around them, hearing the stories, dedication, I really believe military or civilian you all have a profession worth fighting for, worth trying to fill the big shoes left for you, hopefully me as well soon. I know, I am accepting the reality the paycheck I see today will likely be the largest I see, for a long looooong time....:)
 
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