Lids

Lids! Do you or don't you?

  • Always. (As in "Delta" always!)

    Votes: 10 25.6%

  • Occasionally. Every now and then when the mood hits me

    Votes: 8 20.5%

  • Never!! It is collecting dust in the closet.

    Votes: 19 48.7%
  • Total voters
    39
I carry mine on most trips during the "rainy" season of the PacNW...9 months out of the year. When it's rainy/icy/snowing and/or the aircraft is dripping with glycol it's a good piece of equipment to have with you. During the nice days, it stays on the bag...and makes good place to keep all my stuff when I get to the room at night.
 
I wear mine with or without the coat. I think it looks terrible without the coat.

We're outside of mandatory coat season but I'll wear mine until it warms up in Europe. However, how come the fattest pilots are the first to go "Woo hoo! Summer uniform time!" and then bitch about how cold it is? :)
 
And various curbside attendants.

If it's required wear it. If it's not who gives a crap. If you think you are somehow inspiring confidence because you're wearing a cover INDOORS, well way to develop an expectation.
 
mikecweb said:
And various curbside attendants.

If it's required wear it. If it's not who gives a crap. If you think you are somehow inspiring confidence because you're wearing a cover INDOORS, well way to develop an expectation.
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That is TOTALLY unprofessional man! Didn't you ready the previous post?

Come on, get with it.
 
cmhumphr said:
I'm always wearing mine. As in "Delta" always. It's just me and how I am.
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Me too. I'm a not totally extinct species, but certainly an endangered one where I work. (The only exception is that I don't wear it in Mexico as it makes me look like a Federale, which is not a happy thing.)

I don't think it necessarily inspires confidence, but I like mine. Keeps my head dry on walkarounds too. I'm now the third generation to wear one in my family, too—leaving it at home doesn't sit well with me.

MQAAord once said that the coat without the hat is nothing but a jacket with silly stripes at the cuffs. Do with that what you will... ;)
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Me too. I'm a not totally extinct species, but certainly an endangered one where I work. (The only exception is that I don't wear it in Mexico as it makes me look like a Federale, which is not a happy thing.)

I don't think it necessarily inspires confidence, but I like mine. Keeps my head dry on walkarounds too. I'm now the third generation to wear one in my family, too—leaving it at home doesn't sit well with me.

MQAAord once said that the coat without the hat is nothing but a jacket with silly stripes at the cuffs. Do with that what you will... ;)
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Precisely, a uniform is a UNIform. As in they are "supposedly" all the same for every pilot and flight attendant.
 
cmhumphr said:
Precisely, a uniform is a UNIform. As in they are "supposedly" all the same for every pilot and flight attendant.
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Agreed. And they don't...

We have coat-no-hat, leather jacket—no hat, leather jacket—hat, no coat—no hat, epaulet sweater—hat (GAY), epaulet sweater—no hat (suspect)...
 
Haha. So true man. But hey, I'm not the hat police or anything, just my opinions. I mean c'mon. Doesn't it look super weird if one person is in full uniform with the hat, and the other is just wearing the leather jacket with no hat?
 
cmhumphr said:
Haha. So true man. But hey, I'm not the hat police or anything, just my opinions. I mean c'mon. Doesn't it look super weird if one person is in full uniform with the hat, and the other is just wearing the leather jacket with no hat?
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Me neither. It does look...odd.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Me too. I'm a not totally extinct species, but certainly an endangered one where I work. (The only exception is that I don't wear it in Mexico as it makes me look like a Federale, which is not a happy thing.)

I don't think it necessarily inspires confidence, but I like mine. Keeps my head dry on walkarounds too. I'm now the third generation to wear one in my family, too—leaving it at home doesn't sit well with me.

MQAAord once said that the coat without the hat is nothing but a jacket with silly stripes at the cuffs. Do with that what you will... ;)
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The whole uniform is a bunch of silly stripes, buddy. We're not in the military. :) It's just to give the flying public the warm fuzzies. I personally like where a fair amount of the corporate/charter world is going, and moving over to polos and slacks. Still professional, even without the costume.

I guess my issue with the hat comes from one of my previous employers (XJT). If you wore the hat, you were either an old man CA, or an FO who resembled this in some way:

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Well, on some angles, it's sort has a safety function.


Do a rapid egress of a 777 and having some sort of visual indication of authority is essential.

Trying to figure out if the guy with the bedazzled True Religion jeans and the Ed Hardy shirt is really the captain might be a pain in the ass.

If the company wants me to wear a full uniform, well, I'm going to wear the full uniform. My company has a weird obsession with "The Hat" that borders on silly. HOWEVER, no use getting reprimanded over something silly because they hold all the cards.

If I applied for a job at the Paradise Valley Mall "Hot Dog on a Stick", it would be silly for me to bitch about the colors, the funny hat and the red shoes when I voluntarily applied to work there knowing that they have a certain uniform policy.

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Wear it the way the company wants you to wear i, fly the jet, go home and wear that pink taffeta skirt for all I care! :)
 
I agree. Where what they want you to wear. We had a few guys at Shuttle that would always leave their had in the crew in base. If asked they just said they forgot in the crew room and didn't want to take a delay to go get it. No one ever got written up.
 
dasleben said:
I guess my issue with the hat comes from one of my previous employers (XJT). If you wore the hat, you were either an old man CA, or an FO who resembled this in some way:

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*tips hat*

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion... ;)

Besides, I need something to cover up my spiky hair :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
 
Like everything else it starts from the top down. If management isn't going to enforce then it will slowly go away. Also, just like your first day in kindergarten, you tend to do what everyone around you do. If nobody is wearing the hat then you don't want to look like an idiot. Since long before Doug got to southern jets, they were wearing people out for the hat. EVERYoNE does it therefor you don't want to be the only one who doesn't wear it.
 
A quote from a system chief pilot at a very large major airline who shall remain nameless: "The worst thing we ever did for uniform standards was making the hat optional. As soon as that happened, everyone got the idea that they could get away with other things, too. Black sneakers, black dockers, unpressed shirts, whatever."

He was right. Take a look around you in the crew lounge next time you're there, and then think back to when you were a kid, looking up at those pilots with their neatly pressed uniforms, and yes, the hat. They looked like consumate professionals. They inspired confidence. Today, we look like a bunch of slackers. Spiked hair, iPod earbuds in ears, black sneakers instead of dress shoes, top buttons undone and ties hanging down, shirts that should have been thrown out ten years ago they're so worn out, etc. It's pathetic.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Well, on some angles, it's sort has a safety function.


Do a rapid egress of a 777 and having some sort of visual indication of authority is essential.

Trying to figure out if the guy with the bedazzled True Religion jeans and the Ed Hardy shirt is really the captain might be a pain in the ass.

If the company wants me to wear a full uniform, well, I'm going to wear the full uniform. My company has a weird obsession with "The Hat" that borders on silly. HOWEVER, no use getting reprimanded over something silly because they hold all the cards.

If I applied for a job at the Paradise Valley Mall "Hot Dog on a Stick", it would be silly for me to bitch about the colors, the funny hat and the red shoes when I voluntarily applied to work there knowing that they have a certain uniform policy.

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Wear it the way the company wants you to wear i, fly the jet, go home and wear that pink taffeta skirt for all I care! :)
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Where you work, I can pick out the pilots in less time than it takes to snap my fingers.
 
Well, if we're pretending to be in the military, I say we should get half of these guys to hit PT a few times a week. :)

But yeah, no hat for me, but the rest of my uniform is generally fine. Unless I can't find an iron, which happens occasionally.
 
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