Inverted25
Well-Known Member
Not sure if anyone on this site has talked about it but over at APC there is talk of Colgan cancelling all future classes starting with the March 5th class and a possible BK on the horizon. Is any of this true?
Colgan to enter BK?
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jynxyjoe
Queso King
Supposedly the way they've separated the companies and holding groups you can BK just one. I don't understand it fully, and my info could be wrong.
Minuteman
Shipoaster
Quick, restructure all your obligations into Colgan!
ctab5060X
Well-Known Member
Bankrupting just Colgan and a BK judge going after the JCBA... that would be a freaking nightmare!
dingo222
Well-Known Member
That
could be a blessing since he would be screwing with employees that are not part of the bkBankrupting just Colgan and a BK judge going after the JCBA... that would be a freaking nightmare!
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Say all this nonsense comes to pass and the DOOOOM is real, I'd like some answers about this stupid out of seniority furlough crap:
Let's say, for giggles, we furlough all of Colgan due to some deal worked out with Skywest when they buy the Q's. As soon as we need to hire we have to bring these out of seniority furloughs back into the fold at their ISL number, doesn't this just prevent the inevitable cost of training?
Someone told me this happened a long time ago with some company (Eastern I think) how did it work out then. One way or the other, we're all one pilot group now, the BK judge has to be able to see that right? I'll be God damned if the BK judge in some Chapter 13 Emergency filing can just severe the Colgan pilots off our list. Is the bankruptcy judge actually Phil Trenary in this made up scenario?
Furthermore, the successor-ship language of the scope says the Colgan guys can go with the airplanes too, and they would have rights on the JCBA as they get sold. So it's not all doom and gloom, everyone would still have jobs right?
This all seems so dreary, I wish everyone would just smile.
/side note
Also, as our negotiating committee guy pointed out last trip, how in the hell is all this crap not bargaining in bad faith. Can't we nail Phildo to the wall, and his cronies, I would like to see some jail time for them.
Let's say, for giggles, we furlough all of Colgan due to some deal worked out with Skywest when they buy the Q's. As soon as we need to hire we have to bring these out of seniority furloughs back into the fold at their ISL number, doesn't this just prevent the inevitable cost of training?
Someone told me this happened a long time ago with some company (Eastern I think) how did it work out then. One way or the other, we're all one pilot group now, the BK judge has to be able to see that right? I'll be God damned if the BK judge in some Chapter 13 Emergency filing can just severe the Colgan pilots off our list. Is the bankruptcy judge actually Phil Trenary in this made up scenario?
Furthermore, the successor-ship language of the scope says the Colgan guys can go with the airplanes too, and they would have rights on the JCBA as they get sold. So it's not all doom and gloom, everyone would still have jobs right?
This all seems so dreary, I wish everyone would just smile.
/side note
Also, as our negotiating committee guy pointed out last trip, how in the hell is all this crap not bargaining in bad faith. Can't we nail Phildo to the wall, and his cronies, I would like to see some jail time for them.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
You have to be bargaining (in Section 6) in order to be able to bargain in bad faith.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
LOL. Craaaaaa-rap. I hate Phil, I hope he dies of ass cancer.
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
I'd prefer death via kidney stones for a select few.
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
amorris311
Well-Known Member
The emails and text messages are running wild right now!
etflies
Keeping calm, Chiving on.
http://tribune-democrat.com/archive/x1690511802/Johnstowns-commuter-planes-to-be-retired
I had no trouble reading the article. Can't find a word about the announcement it mentions though.
I had no trouble reading the article. Can't find a word about the announcement it mentions though.
The Juice
Well-Known Member
Its sad that people actually think that the Saabs are not going away, and surprised if it is announced that they are leaving.
If all we lose are Saabs, it would be a huge success
etflies
Keeping calm, Chiving on.
Dats wassup.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Indeed my drug rug wearing doggie friend.
Indeed.
Change your signature to "Life is better when you smurf".
etflies
Keeping calm, Chiving on.
Indeed my drug rug wearing doggie friend.
Indeed.
Change your signature to "Life is better when you smurf".
Just for you!