Online Bachelors Programs

Most good Universities have some options to exempt students from sitting in classes learning what they've already learned. They do this by accepting transfer credits (with some way to tell if the old school's Airframe 256 course is similar to their Airframe 256). They also do it for life experience, usually with some sort of exam (written or oral), again to insure that the student knows it. The credibility of the school rides on how good their graduates are. Reputable ones don't just rubber-stamp, but some are clearly more open to this and accepting of reasonableness than others.

There are usually limits to how many credits can be transferred in and used for their degree requirement. They do, after all, want to sell you some education.

Transfer credit can become a huge mess, better cleared up before you enroll. If they make you take X credits again, the cost and time can skyrocket. Once you are enrolled, your bargaining power really drops!

For anyone with no college credits, today's biggest bargain is the community college, particularly for basic educational courses - English, math, history and the like. Check who they have matriculation agreements with, so your transcript just slides into the newer school when you're ready.

And while you're at it, you'll probably learn some fascinating stuff.
 
Well thanks for all the info that everyone provided. Slightly different question: I saw that quite a few people mentioned transfering credits and flight ratings, can anyone give me examples of ease of transfer, number of credits, and what ratings you were given credit for in your experience with a certain school?

I asked UVU about credits for flight ratings, and they said i would only receive about 16 credits since i have CFI,CFII and MEII, but that I would probably have to take ground courses with them.... I believe they told me i would have to register for the class and then test out of it. Still, that just sounds like a hassle but i guess the school needs to make money some way.

Any one have any experience with transferring and Associates with A&P credit into these schools?
 
Surfneric said:
Well thanks for all the info that everyone provided. Slightly different question: I saw that quite a few people mentioned transfering credits and flight ratings, can anyone give me examples of ease of transfer, number of credits, and what ratings you were given credit for in your experience with a certain school?

I asked UVU about credits for flight ratings, and they said i would only receive about 16 credits since i have CFI,CFII and MEII, but that I would probably have to take ground courses with them.... I believe they told me i would have to register for the class and then test out of it. Still, that just sounds like a hassle but i guess the school needs to make money some way.

Any one have any experience with transferring and Associates with A&P credit into these schools?
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I transferred into Embry riddle online with an associates degree in Aviation Maintenance Technology, CFI, CFII, MEI, and A&P. I chose the professional aeronautics because it gave me the most credits. When I had first inquired about the degree program they had told me that I could get 30 credits for my certificates. After I completed the transfer process they ended up giving me 33 credits for the commercial pilot certificate, 1 credit for CFI, and 8 credits for my A&P. They gave me a total of 42 credits for my certificates and ratings and 15 credits for general ed credits I took at a community college. Overall I got 57 credits transferred in, which I though was pretty good! I tested out of 3 more classes using CLEP, so I had a total transfer of 66 credits.
 
So is the overall consensus ERAU? I am thinking about transferring colleges. I really don't like how UVU only transfers 16 credit hours or the licenses. I almost went to UVU but when they told me that, I did not go. I now sit with about 70 plus credit hours and am eagerly looking for a degree program that will transfer these credits. At this point it would be tough to start a new degree program non aviation related since I have invested time and effort into getting these credits.

I have a full time job flying, so it would be tough to go to a state school even though that is what I want more than anything.


Just looking for some advice on the best choices I could make on transferring to a new college.
 
I did the uvu thing and got way more than 16 credits. Transferred an AA degree and commercial multi instrument and then some credit for being a regional pilot ( high alt, turbine). After all was said and done I took 10 classes to graduate.
 
QuasarZ said:
I did the uvu thing and got way more than 16 credits. Transferred an AA degree and commercial multi instrument and then some credit for being a regional pilot ( high alt, turbine). After all was said and done I took 10 classes to graduate.
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Thanks for heads up but I fell into this category.

Experiential credit is posted to the student's transcript after associated fees have been paid and the request has been processed. When experiential credit is granted for a course, it will be assigned "CR" (credit) as the final grade. The student is allowed to use experiential credit for a maximum of 30 credit hours at UVU. Sixteen of these credits can be lower division courses. The other fourteen credits must be upper division courses. Please contact one of our senior advisors for more information at aviation@uvu.edu .

Most of the licenses are considered lower level so they will only transfer 16.

The basic reply I got from them was

Based on your flight experience we would be able to offer you credits for the following courses: AVSC 1100, 1220, 1240, 2300, 2400, 2440 for 16 credits.

I have a CFI,CFII, and MEI and with these classes plus the other general education classes it would only add up to 40, which to me was unimpressive. They told me I would have to sign up for private pilot ground school and test out of it, while paying for the full class. I was agitated to say the least.
 
I was considering UVU when I was looking as well. The flight school I was teaching at was part 141 and had just started a partnership with UVU. They would give students up to 30 credits or so who enrolled in our part 141 and their online degree program. But they would only give me 16 credits, even though I was one of the instructors!! So I decided on embry riddle... They gave me 23 lower level credits and 9 Upper level credits for just the commercial pilot certificate. I think you should have embry riddle do a degree audit for you, and see what they give you!!!
 
Interesting. Maybe they have changed things. I had no problems and nothing but great experiencs with uvu.
 
Just to add,

Check the programs out in terms of what you want to do as well. It isn't the school name that really matters, it is if you can use the knowledge in your new job. Look for programs with current professionals, internships, and really putting their coursework out there. If they hide what courses you need to take or what they comprise of, stay away.

I recently started my Masters of Science Engineering through University of Wisconsin Platteville. So far, it's ok. I really like one teacher, and not so much the other, but that's school. It's also a bit dated in how classes are delivered, but they're upgrading the system. Don't be afraid to ask for a test drive.
 
We're seeing some consistency here: Inconsistency

Causes could be...
1. Requirements are changing. Possible, but an easy thing to ask about.
2. Depends on who's doing the job. Quality control? To whom do you appeal?
3. Sounds like a lot of verbal promises. Wasn't it Yogi Berra that said they aren't worth the paper they're printed on?

I'd be inclined to document everything carefully, and make sure your thank-you letter includes an "As we determined,..." section to guard against future forgetfulness.

Sign up and test out is a sneaky way of getting you to pay for it. It is, however, done in many places, not just aviation. Since some courses / schools require a minimum number of students to actually hold the class, they may be using this to cook those books. Ask about refunds :bounce:

If a course is just a requirement for an advanced course (and you don't need it for credit), go to the person who teaches the advanced class and discuss your readiness for that class. S/he may be able to waive the literal requirement.

While we're doing hard lessons here, be careful about advisors. Some are wonderful, period. Some are wonderful at advising and being a mentor, but lousy on their institution's rules & procedures. Some are rubber stamps for whatever you ask for. People have been burned here: time wasted, extra courses taken & paid for by you, etc.
 
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