Say reason for change of destination

pete2800 said:
This.

I'd likely just say "PIC decision." I want to go there. Who cares why, unless it's an emergency? If it is, I'll tell you.
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Like someone else posted, don't get too upset. We don't care either; we're required to ask. The supervisor phones it in, and that's the end of it.
 
pericynthion said:
Part 91 personal flight on "VFR-on-top" IFR flight plan. Halfway through the 3hr flight I asked to change my destination, essentially due to a change of plans about where my passenger and I wanted to stay that night and do the following day. ARTCC asked the reason for my change, which I explained somewhat ungracefully, and had me standby for several minutes before giving me a new clearance ("direct [dest], maintain VFR on top"). Is it standard practice for ATC to ask the reason for a change of destination? Is there some brief way I can explain myself in a similar situation? Neither the original nor new destination was busy or under flow control, they were relatively close to each other, and we were >250nm away when I asked for the diversion.
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Your passenger was his wife?
 
if you are gonna tell atc you have to take a dump as the reason.....dont slip and use the verbage "I gotta drop b###s"....that could cause problems...hahaha(censored to avoid any unnecesary phone calls...)
 
N519AT said:
This reminds me of something I heard a few months ago up in Northern Michigan talking to Minnie Center:

"Center, N123 would like to change destination to XXX"
"N123, say reason for change of destination?"
"Our passenger has to use the bathroom. BAD."

It was pretty funny. And yeah, they'll ask every single time. I'm not really sure why but they do. Just give a very vague reason as to why (pax request is good) and you're set.
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I had a chinese student sweating it out on a long x-c one time. Told ATC I needed to divert, they asked me why, and I said because of a sick passenger. I wish I had the balls to say, because this dude is going to crap himself. In the end though it turned out to be my worst experience in an airplane, because the dude did crap himself.
 
pericynthion said:
Ok, when I have a passenger I'll just say it's a passenger request. When I'm solo that won't fly because obviously the controller is going to look up the souls-on-board figure in my flight plan, so I'll use the second suggestion :D
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Do you really think we have enough time or care enough to do that? That being said, it must be a center thing, cause I've never asked why someone is changing destination. I amend it in the system and reclear you.
 
Wait. The Domestic Event Network is a 24/7 nationwide conference call. Didn't people used to pay good money for that kind of thing back in the 80's?

I would be disappointed if the recordings during periods of low activity are not occasionally hilarious.
 
DJTRACON said:
Do you really think we have enough time or care enough to do that? That being said, it must be a center thing, cause I've never asked why someone is changing destination. I amend it in the system and reclear you.
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That would be my best kept secret, because it's not just for centers, and it's not even a little bit optional.
 
Gryder changes course
Around the track, Aaron Gryder's nickname is Gryder the Rider, but after his actions on Saturday, he might have to take to the skies.
Gryder was aboard a private jet that left California with owner Paul Reddam and his wife, Zillah, and Leandro Mora, the assistant to trainer Doug O'Neill. Reddam was going to Saratoga to watch Notional in the Whitney Handicap, Mora was going to saddle Thor's Echo in the Vanderbilt, and Gryder was to ride Black Seventeen in the Vanderbilt.
About two hours into the flight, Gryder got up to see if the pilots wanted something to drink. When he went to ask, though, Gryder noticed a map of the United States between the two pilots, with a route from California to Florida highlighted.
Puzzled, Gryder asked them, "How's the weather in New York?"
"Who cares about New York?" one of the pilots responded. "We're going to sunny Florida. Sarasota, Florida."
"We're not going to Sarasota," Gryder said. "We're going to Saratoga, New York."
At that, the co-pilot took off his headset, turned to Gryder and said, "You're kidding, right?"
"It was just dumb luck," Gryder said. "All because I asked if they wanted a cup of coffee. If the door had been locked and I couldn't have talked to the pilots. . . ."
The plane arrived in Saratoga Springs about an hour later than originally scheduled. Gryder missed an earlier mount on the Saratoga card, but was there in time for the Vanderbilt, where he finished fifth aboard Black Seventeen.
 
DJTRACON said:
I've been looking through the 7110.65 and can't find this requirement anywhere if you could show me where to look I'd appreciate it.
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It isn't in the .65. It came out some time last year as a mandatory briefing item. Its absolutely required although, no, I couldn't tell you exactly where to find it.
 
DJTRACON said:
Which manadatory item, cause I've been at a level 6 for 3.5 years and never heard of this .
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This one (from the link in post #10):

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This was effective 11/23/10 and was cancelled a year later. Cancelled Notices either get reissued, incorporated into an existing Order, or they go away.

Your Training Department should be able to clear this up for you.
 
I actually heard this for the first time the other day on Memphis Center. The pilot responded with an unsure sounding "Say again please"... The controller responded, "For my manager and the tapes, Say reason for change of destination" I can't remember how the pilot responded, but it was full of verbal pauses!

Never hearing this before, seemed like an odd ATC request.
 
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