SWA cuts legroom....

CapnJim said:
Meh, I've noticed that it really doesn't matter what you post-- someone, somewhere is going to hate on it. Very likely, there will be three or four people, plus a few trolls, and on the basis of that the half-dozen or so haters and trolls will be all to happy to announce that their opinion is the consensus view. It's a stupid thing, really, but the haters get a little zing of affirmation, and the trolls get delishus lolz.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Oh yeah, CAL is by far the worst. Not only are the seats about 4" from one another, but they seem to be composed chiefly of rough-hewn sawdust and decomposing bug parts, and then treated to make them smell like the inside of Mario Batali's Crocs. Fortunately, this arrangement gives the flight attendants the opportunity to take pleasure in the discomfort of the passengers, which seems to be the only thing that they actually enjoy about their work.

The pilots, mustering up what stoicism their decimated morale allows, just close the door and say "well, the 'slave ship' seems to be in order back there." They call if the Slave Ship because looking back into the cabin reminds them of this:
slaveship.jpg
Click to expand...
oye...
 
SWA load factor has always been lower than the other airlines, which aren't anywhere near 100% all the time. How will adding more seats allow for more revenue if they aren't going to fill them?
 
wheelsup said:
SWA load factor has always been lower than the other airlines, which aren't anywhere near 100% all the time. How will adding more seats allow for more revenue if they aren't going to fill them?
Click to expand...

Yes, average load factor is always lower, but there are some routes that fill up every time, and this will allow a few more seats while still reducing overall weight, and therefore fuel burn.
 
I'd be curious to know how many SWA haters have actually applied to work there and haven't made the cut. I don't work for SWA, but I'd like to. There's got to be more to the hatred than the number of inches between the seats.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Yes, average load factor is always lower, but there are some routes that fill up every time, and this will allow a few more seats while still reducing overall weight, and therefore fuel burn.
Click to expand...

Revenue per seat mile is the key. A profitable route can be half empty most of the time if you charge enough for the seats.

The BOS-LGA and LGA-DCA legs rarely full up, but have traditionally been quite profitable.
 
BeReal said:
I'd be curious to know how many SWA haters have actually applied to work there and haven't made the cut. I don't work for SWA, but I'd like to. There's got to be more to the hatred than the number of inches between the seats.
Click to expand...

I've noticed that there seems to be alot of hatred for SWA due to their success. As if one must not be a real airline pilot if they are actually happy with their job, their management, with going to work everyday, etc. SWA does seem to get nitpicked to death: "they taxi too fast"; "you'll never get beyond a 737 flying domestic (as if those who work there will get surprised by that)"; "SWAPA isn't a real union....justa wannabe in-house union"; "having to have a 737 type rating prior to employment is buying a job.....or PFJ"; etc, ad nauseum.

Seemingly, unless one is angry and dissatisfied with their job and their management at their airline, then something must be wrong with them. SWA has a unique culture to it that has been made to work somehow, and the airline as a whole seems happy with that. Why that should bother anyone else is beyond me.
 
I flew a AirFrance domestic flight a few months ago with slim seats that did not recline and I actually liked it. It was nice not having a seat reclined in my face. Also those cup holders that are separate from the flip down tray are the bomb, why don't any US carriers have them ?

This can't be any worse then United's current economy, 31 inches and the reclined chair in your face
 
Champcar said:
This can't be any worse then United's current economy, 31 inches and the reclined chair in your face
Click to expand...
Next time you fly United, wait until boarding has started and then politely ask if there is a seat closer to the front. More often than not, if its open, they will move you up to economy plus for free since it obviously isn't going to sell at that point. It isn't something they'll get in trouble for, I remember when I was a gate agent I would only refrain from a free upgrade if the person was rude or sounded entitled. Up to 9 extra inches of space in some airplanes, and as a 6'1 person who flies United often, it makes a huge difference. :)
 
ChasenSFO said:
Next time you fly United, wait until boarding has started and then politely ask if there is a seat closer to the front. More often than not, if its open, they will move you up to economy plus for free since it obviously isn't going to sell at that point. It isn't something they'll get in trouble for, I remember when I was a gate agent I would only refrain from a free upgrade if the person was rude or sounded entitled. Up to 9 extra inches of space in some airplanes, and as a 6'1 person who flies United often, it makes a huge difference. :)
Click to expand...
6'1" whiner, try being 6'5"
 
ChasenSFO said:
Next time you fly United, wait until boarding has started and then politely ask if there is a seat closer to the front. More often than not, if its open, they will move you up to economy plus for free since it obviously isn't going to sell at that point. It isn't something they'll get in trouble for, I remember when I was a gate agent I would only refrain from a free upgrade if the person was rude or sounded entitled. Up to 9 extra inches of space in some airplanes, and as a 6'1 person who flies United often, it makes a huge difference. :)
Click to expand...
I've tried that a few times (politely) and was told they would be an extra $...
 
I love how everyone complains about air travel.. but really what do u expect for $170.. wine, steak dinner, and a happy ending...
 
If it doesn't involve airplanes yes! I am sad that I am in the minority when I would gladly pay that extra $200 for an extra inch of room, some real food, and a beer.

That being said when it comes to SWA, I know I am not going to get that. I never have, and back in the day, before the fuel hedges, that is what made them cheaper. I would choose what I want based on the length of the flight.
 
scooter2525 said:
I've tried that a few times (politely) and was told they would be an extra $...
Click to expand...
That's when you put on your mink jacket and purple sunglasses, strut down the jetway, take a "welcome aboard" drink out of the hands of a first class passenger, settle down in E+, and tip it to the sky with you pinky ring up high, sir. Works everytime.

Really, if I saw that, I'd sure as hell let you sit there.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top