Part 141 Training...

HeyEng

HeyEng

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So I haven't been able find this information easily, so thought I would ask...

I am looking to do the IR and CSEL with a Part 141 school in order to use the GI Bill. The question is, if I have all the FAA mins for experience (for part 61), would I need to complete the entire 141 course? I wouldn't think so, but it's toough to find the information. Where I am getting hung up is either using the 10K a year for flight training only or the state max if going through a state school. So...what's the deal? A couple of "stage checks" and then off to the check ride?
 
Der_Meister said:
in short yes, you would have to complete the 141 course.
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Actually, no, the school CAN give you credit for prior training. I want to say 25% if it was part 61, more from another 141/142. Most schools probably won't want to though, as they get more $ from you if you do the whole program. The school I go to is about to get 141 that's how I know that credit can be given.
 
amjon said:
Actually, no, the school CAN give you credit for prior training. I want to say 25% if it was part 61, more from another 141/142. Most schools probably won't want to though, as they get more $ from you if you do the whole program. The school I go to is about to get 141 that's how I know that credit can be given.
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Fact.
 
Just wondering where in pat 141 does it say that? Not that I don't trust you but I just want to know for future reference.
is it 141.77?
 
Im a Chief Flight Instructor at a small 141 flight school. Our training course outlines specifies that we can give up to 25% credit if they transfer from a 61 school. And up to 50% credit if transferring from a 141 school. I as the chief have the authority to determine how much credit they get. Some schools may vary but I believe this is the standard practice. It takes 35 hours to get the IR 141, so half of that is 18 hours. That's not to bad.

On another note, I have never yet had a student come in that I gave them full 50% credit even if they did almost have all the hour requirements met.
 
Der_Meister said:
Just wondering where in pat 141 does it say that? Not that I don't trust you but I just want to know for future reference.
is it 141.77?
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Sorry, don't know the exact FAR, but it's in 141. They were looking for it last time I was at the school, so I know it's in there somewhere.
 
amjon said:
Sorry, don't know the exact FAR, but it's in 141. They were looking for it last time I was at the school, so I know it's in there somewhere.
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I dont ever recall seeing it in the FARs although I have bad memory so you never know..

I believe its in FAA Order 8900.1 and AC 141-1A
 
If you are not in a get it done today situation, I would suggest using your GI Bill at a School Like Big Bend CC in Washington State. You take care of 141 issues, work on all your ratings, be going to school, and you will also get the monthly e-5 pay in addition to tuition etc. They are in Moses Lake, Wa. Best to you.
 
Airmann said:
If you are not in a get it done today situation, I would suggest using your GI Bill at a School Like Big Bend CC in Washington State. You take care of 141 issues, work on all your ratings, be going to school, and you will also get the monthly e-5 pay in addition to tuition etc. They are in Moses Lake, Wa. Best to you.
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If I had a choice, that's exactly what I would do....however, I still have about a year before I can retire, so I am stuck with what I have around San Antonio. I would wait until I retire, but I am convinced that there will be a GI Bill Post 9/11 version 3.0 that will severely change the new, best flight training program ever. The amount of money the VA is going to spend IS going to get a lot of attention from the DoD and our elected officials and I just can't see them continuing to offer such large amounts of money for this.

BUT...if I had a good guarantee that the program would still be around in a year, then yes, I would be all over it.
 
You can do your training under pt 141 and then drop out and take your pt 61 checkride at any time. I did this for my commercial, got all my requirements met under pt61 but still had about 12 hours to go to complete the 141 course so I disenrolled and took my checkride under pt 61. Same result!
 
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