United 93 - Accident Investigation

Stryker172 said:
I think theres more then enough crazy in this thread to go around without bringing in the chem trail folks.
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And now to put it over the edge. Muahahaha.
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Doug Taylor said:
Let's solve the conundrum of abortion now! :)
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Doug Taylor said:
CHEMTRAILS!
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Doug Taylor said:
Considering we're an aviation website, you're not going to find any answers here, that's the primary point.
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This aviation crash investigation thread started by hambone has attracted almost 4000 views in just a few days. . He struck a nerve. . But this is Mr. Taylor's website, and its pretty obvious he does not want this subject discussed. . With the moderator working all day to disrupt the conversation himself, I think we're done here. . He's right. . You're not going to get any questions answered here either. .

Not here.
 
KILL IT WITH FIRE.

Honestly, I don't know what the heck we're talking about at this point. People who honestly believe in conspiracy theory's have a lack of understanding of logic.
 
Qutch said:
This aviation crash investigation thread started by hambone has attracted almost 4000 views in just a few days. . He struck a nerve. . But this is Mr. Taylor's website, and its pretty obvious he does not want this subject discussed. . With the moderator working all day to disrupt the conversation himself, I think we're done here. . He's right. . You're not going to get any questions answered here either. .

Not here.
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I think you took Doug's posts the wrong way. We are not serious all the time, and even on the serious threads there is a certain amount of humor and randomness thrown in.
 
I just farted..... Therefore chemtrails exist..... BRB where did I put my beer :D


Anywhoo... It's apparent that the only angle of attack here is, well... an angle of attack. That's too bad because we could have actually had an interesting conversation about the events. Obviously ten years later is not long enough for the emotionally charged individuals. Maybe we can revisit the topic someday, If we do it would be nice if the little crying girls would stay out. Ya know, the "you're a skitzo", " you were a fifth grader when it happened", "It's past your bed time" crowd. Those personal attacks were actually pathetic and what I consider unbecoming a group of so called "professionals". I'd tell you my real opinion, but I don't wanna hear a bunch of internet tough guys crying like little girls.

My opinion on the matter stands, I don't believe the official explanation. And it's my prerogative to be skeptical. To those of you who doubt the fact that governments lie to initiate wars, I suggest you study some history. Not just history abroad, do some research on how wars begin. You'll find some very disturbing high percentage numbers that indicate lies and false flag events are used as a provocation to war. We have been sold on this boogie man theory, that we need to have our rights and our liberties stripped for supposed security. If we are in fact trying to spread democracy around the globe, why are our returning veterans being called a terrorist threat? Why are 9/11 first responders being denied treatment and also being put on FBI terror watchlists? Since 9/11 we have been economically weakened to a point of no return. Believing we are better today than 10 years ago is a childish notion. Soon, we will be called the terrorists, why? Because the boogieman doesn't sleep. That is why he was invented. You keep handing over your liberties to the fascist scum, and I'll keep telling them to shove it.
 
flyingbum said:
That's too bad because we could have actually had an interesting conversation about the events... Maybe we can revisit the topic someday,

My opinion on the matter stands, I don't believe the official explanation. And it's my prerogative to be skeptical.
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I am skeptical as well and I think that there are questions to be answered. If folks want to take the company line hook and sinker so be it. Now I don't feel I am a conspiracy theorist but I do feel that there were people who knew or should have known things who have maintained a somewhat plausible deniability of that knowledge. I am not making accusations or trying to say that I know what happened, just that it has been wrapped in too neatly in a package with a bow on top.

We won't solve it here but that doesn't mean that the owner doesn't want us to discuss things, merely that we don't take ourselves so seriously that our panties get in our crack while we do it...if we were wearing any.
 
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Here is a picture before the secondary collapse. Notice the damaged structure on the very bottom right of the picture, it is what I believe to be a generator building that was hit by possibly the right engine?
 
I sometimes wonder whether the vast majority of "conspiracy theorists" aren't on Their payroll. Make some outlandish claims, fail to back them up, admit to having no serious training on the subject, froth at the mouth for effect. Perfect way to silence any inconvenient and non-ludicrous doubts. "Oh, another conspiracy nutter!"

There weren't any holograms. There wasn't any "controlled demo". Yes, they were planes (and the planes listed). Now, if you asked me whether there's a scintila of evidence discrediting numerous reports of agents of a "friendly" middle-eastern power being detained after filming and appearing to celebrate the NYC attacks...I'd have to say "no".

I know, I know, I'm crazy, but I'm less crazy than those guys!
 
Boris Badenov said:
I sometimes wonder whether the vast majority of "conspiracy theorists" aren't on Their payroll. Make some outlandish claims, fail to back them up, admit to having no serious training on the subject, froth at the mouth for effect. Perfect way to silence any inconvenient and non-ludicrous doubts. "Oh, another conspiracy nutter!"

There weren't any holograms. There wasn't any "controlled demo". Yes, they were planes (and the planes listed). Now, if you asked me whether there's a scintila of evidence discrediting numerous reports of agents of a "friendly" middle-eastern power being detained after filming and appearing to celebrate the NYC attacks...I'd have to say "no".

I know, I know, I'm crazy, but I'm less crazy than those guys!
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ASpilot2be said:
And now to put it over the edge. Muahahaha.
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And here is the conspiracy and the stupidity of America all presented in one picture. First, the stupidity part:

1) This bimbo actually has, and has had, a show on a major American cable network for years - and many, many people watch. That is strike one against the USA in the stupidity pitch-count. Strike two would be that Chaz Bono is going on Dancing With the Stars and everyone is outraged by this (I was confused at first - but the more I'm told to be outraged by this I am beginning to come around to the point of view that Chaz is exceptionally brave to put herself out there like this and take all of the heat that it was known it would generate. It isn't like Cher can't support Chaz for several lifetimes - so this is obviously being done as an act of bravery to help create understanding or something. Until further notice I admire Chaz's guts). Anyway...DWTS puts Chaz Bono on and everyone poops their pants...yet Nancy Grace is also on this season and nobody is outraged at all...where is the intelligence of that?

2) The stupidity part: The true conspiracy is the manipulation of education by the Federal Government. You can call it whatever you want but the erosion of moral/ethical as well as educational excellence has created a nation of idiots and losers. Educational excellence is receding at a rapid pace and this is evidenced by the rise of reality TV. You go to school now and they teach you increasingly worthless curriculum, then you return home and watch increasingly worthless Television entertainment - that isn't designed to make you think so much as designed to dumb you down and kill time, while conveniently brainwashing you into buying the latest items that are advertised. I would submit that if you personally know anyone that watches reality TV - you are duty bound to kill them. It is the patriotic thing to do. We must raise our collective national IQ. Now, I blame democrats for this erosion exclusively (they created the Department of Education, they control Hollywood which controls the "entertainment). This, to me is the true conspiracy.
 
WacoFan said:
And here is the conspiracy and the stupidity of America all presented in one picture. First, the stupidity part:

1) This bimbo actually has, and has had, a show on a major American cable network for years - and many, many people watch. That is strike one against the USA in the stupidity pitch-count. Strike two would be that Chaz Bono is going on Dancing With the Stars and everyone is outraged by this (I was confused at first - but the more I'm told to be outraged by this I am beginning to come around to the point of view that Chaz is exceptionally brave to put herself out there like this and take all of the heat that it was known it would generate. It isn't like Cher can't support Chaz for several lifetimes - so this is obviously being done as an act of bravery to help create understanding or something. Until further notice I admire Chaz's guts). Anyway...DWTS puts Chaz Bono on and everyone poops their pants...yet Nancy Grace is also on this season and nobody is outraged at all...where is the intelligence of that?

2) The stupidity part: The true conspiracy is the manipulation of education by the Federal Government. You can call it whatever you want but the erosion of moral/ethical as well as educational excellence has created a nation of idiots and losers. Educational excellence is receding at a rapid pace and this is evidenced by the rise of reality TV. You go to school now and they teach you increasingly worthless curriculum, then you return home and watch increasingly worthless Television entertainment - that isn't designed to make you think so much as designed to dumb you down and kill time, while conveniently brainwashing you into buying the latest items that are advertised. I would submit that if you personally know anyone that watches reality TV - you are duty bound to kill them. It is the patriotic thing to do. We must raise our collective national IQ. Now, I blame democrats for this erosion exclusively (they created the Department of Education, they control Hollywood which controls the "entertainment). This, to me is the true conspiracy.
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you had me till here...party on Garth.
 
I like how you defend Chaz Bono for being on Dancing With The Stars, and then proceed to bash reality TV and blame it for the downfall of America's educational system. Well played sir! :pirate:
 
Bumblebee said:
you had me till here...party on Garth.
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When I was writing that post - I put that in there specifically for you - seriously. Not that I don't believe it, I do - but I would have refrained from putting it in there but then it occured to me: "It is 6:30am after a long weekend. I haven't gotten Bee's panties in a twist in a couple of days. Ah screw it - it's going in!"

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