CFI Renewal

[mhcasey]

Fellas,

My CFI cert was issued 11Sep09. I just went online to register for a renewal course, but stumbled across this reg:

[h=2]Sec. 61.197 — Renewal requirements for flight instructor certification.[/h] (a) A person who holds a flight instructor certificate that has not expired may renew that flight instructor certificate by— (1) Passing a practical test for—
(i) One of the ratings listed on the current flight instructor certificate; or
(ii) An additional flight instructor rating; or
(2) Submitting a completed and signed application with the FAA and satisfactorily completing one of the following renewal requirements—
(i) A record of training students showing that, during the preceding 24 calendar months, the flight instructor has endorsed at least 5 students for a practical test for a certificate or rating and at least 80 percent of those students passed that test on the first attempt.
(ii) A record showing that, within the preceding 24 calendar months, the flight instructor has served as a company check pilot, chief flight instructor, company check airman, or flight instructor in a part 121 or part 135 operation, or in a position involving the regular evaluation of pilots.
(iii) A graduation certificate showing that, within the preceding 3 calendar months, the person has successfully completed an approved flight instructor refresher course consisting of ground training or flight training, or a combination of both.
(iv) A record showing that, within the preceding 12 months from the month of application, the flight instructor passed an official U.S. Armed Forces military instructor pilot proficiency check.
(b) The expiration month of a renewed flight instructor certificate shall be 24 calendar months from—
(1) The month the renewal requirements of paragraph (a) of this section are accomplished; or
(2) The month of expiration of the current flight instructor certificate provided—
(i) The renewal requirements of paragraph (a) of this section are accomplished within the 3 calendar months preceding the expiration month of the current flight instructor certificate, and

(ii) If the renewal is accomplished under paragraph (a)(2)(iii) of this section, the approved flight instructor refresher course must be completed within the 3 calendar months preceding the expiration month of the current flight instructor certificate.
(c) The practical test required by paragraph (a)(1) of this section may be accomplished in a flight simulator or flight training device if the test is accomplished pursuant to an approved course conducted by a training center certificated under part 142 of this chapter.

According to the bold, if I finish this thing prior to 1Sep, will I be good to go, or does the paperwork need to be stamped by 1Sep?

Thanks,

Mike

 

[citrus]

If your cert expires in Sept. (the date does not matter, going by calendar months) you should be ok if FIRC was completed any time within the months June, July, August or Sept.

taken from 61-65e
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(1) If a flight instructor renewal applicant’s current flight instructor certificate expires in
August, then that applicant must accomplish one of the flight instructor renewal actions in the
months of May, June, July, or August to retain the month of August as the expiration month (per
section 61.197(b)(2)(i)).
(2) For example, assume a flight instructor renewal applicant has August 31, 2005,
showing on her current flight instructor certificate. The applicant completes an FIRC on June 1,
2005, and presents her current flight instructor certificate and FIRC graduation certificate to a
FSDO on June 1, 2005. The flight instructor certificate is renewed with a new expiration date of
August 31, 2007 (per section 61.197(b)(2)(ii)).

 

[gotWXdagain]

Regarding (a)(2)(ii), does the "or in a position involving the regular evaluation of pilots" count for part 141 stage pilots as well?

 

[Houston]

Regarding (a)(2)(ii), does the "or in a position involving the regular evaluation of pilots" count for part 141 stage pilots as well?

"Probably." However, different inspectors at different FSDO's might see it differently. It's best to renew early if there is any question. Then you won't get caught in a nasty last minute surprise. Just as a suggestion, you should talk with the POI for the 141 school. He or she is most aware of the school's performance and the reason you are a stage check pilot for the school. If your POI would not renew you on that basis, I'd be very surprised. But I have been "very surprised" before, so I wouldn't take anything for granted.