Private Multi-Engine Checkride

WheatonPilot68

WheatonPilot68

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I'm getting prepared for my Multi-Engine add on to just my private pilots license ( no instrument rating yet). I know the examiner will cover the systems in the oral but what else should I get prepared for? The aircraft I am getting the examination in is a PA-23 250 Turbo E model.
 
Just a note to add...for both my multi checkrides (CMEL and MEI) the examiner tested everything. I am not saying this to scare you, but it really is stuff you should know. Especially everything to do with flying a multi-engine airplane (systems, Vmc, flying single engine, etc.)
 
We covered just about everything on my AMEL checkride. For the oral it was mostly systems, and aerodynamics. On the flight we did steep turns, stall, VMC demo, engine out procedures, emergency descent, and engine out on climb out.
 
No one else said it so I will. He just might pull an engine!

Really, a ME check ride is a walk in the park.
 
I recently had a student of mine pass this checkride. Like everyone says your first Multi ride (esp Pvt) is pretty easy. Just stay relaxed and know what to do when the engine fails just after takeoff. I went over that time and time again with my guy to make sure he wouldn't f--- it up. Identify Verify Identify Verify Identify Verify Identify...
 
WheatonPilot68 said:
I'm getting prepared for my Multi-Engine add on to just my private pilots license ( no instrument rating yet). I know the examiner will cover the systems in the oral but what else should I get prepared for? The aircraft I am getting the examination in is a PA-23 250 Turbo E model.
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No one else has mentioned, so I'll chime in.

Are you certain you want to add a Multi to your PPL before you have your instrument ticket? I did this personally, and regret it. It was simply a waste of money.
If you plan on continuing your training, presumably your IR rating would be next in line which I can logically assume will be done in a single (Unless of course you ave deeeeeep pockets).

Anyway, if you get your PPL-ME add on on, and then get your PPL-SE IR, you will have to go back and take another checkride in a Multi in order to have the "Single Approach Only" Limitation removed. On the other hand, if you got your PPL IR first when you went to add your ME rating you only have to do an extra single approach and you have your PPL-ME IR free and clear.

It will save you money in the end by getting your PPL IR first, and quite honestly what are you going to do with a PPL-ME anyway? No one is going to rent you a multi, so it is really just bragging rights.

Food for thought. Good Luck.
 
Or just do Single Engine Private, Single Engine Instrument Rating, then Commercial Multi, then Single Add-On. Done! Come out with more multi time (yes it's not PIC) and you don't have to spend all that money for each multi engine certificate.
 
matthew said:
Isn't it the other way around? :concern:
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Good call fixed it.

As for the ME before instrument depends what route you want to take? He might know someone that will let him sit right seat, in a place like FL you never know who you will meet... Then there are schools like AllATP that make you do the instrument, Comm, and CFI all in the twin to get the ME time. Just sayin'
 
I did basically what the OP describes, except I already had my IR. I decided to get my PPL-ME right before I started my CPL training because I was in need of 10 hrs of complex time, but didn't really need 10 hrs of instruction on how to move the prop lever. Since I owned an AA-1B at the time my choice was to get those 10 hrs in an PA-28R or a BE-95 for about $60 more per hour. Even though I already had an instrument rating I decided that I had no business flying a twin in the clouds since I wouldn't be flying one too often. The place I trained would let me rent it once I had 10 hrs in type, and I think I ended up with about 11 hrs getting my rating. I made a few cross country flights with friends when we needed a four seat airplane and ended up with a couple free flights in another school's Seminole when they needed it moved for maintenance. When I purchased a Seneca I upgraded my ME privileges to CPL & instrument. Yes, I ended up with an extra check ride, but when it was all said and done I think I ended up further ahead by the route I picked.
 
It will help to run through your flows on the ground in your airplane. Have the engine failure flow down cold before the checkride. I sat in the plane for about an hour before the checkride so everything was fresh in my brain. You know he's going to cut an engine on ground roll, and when climbing, so be prepared for that. Other than that, it's a pretty easy check ride. At least you won't have to do a single engine ILS approach since you are VFR. That can be challenging on a windy day!
 
I took my multi ride in an E model Aztec.

My examiner covered everything from systems (very detailed), to performance, to emergency procedures for the airplane. Ended up covering everything in the PTS plus a little (examiner was trying to trip me up on stuff).

The Aztec has lots of power so beware of an engine being pulled on the takeoff roll. Anything more than about 40-50 knots and it starts to get real hard to keep from taking an off runway excursion.

Know your flows and have a plan. Fly it like you know the airplane and with confidence. An Aztec is not going to kill you if you get a little firm with the control inputs, but it will if you don't.
 
X-Forces said:
No one else has mentioned, so I'll chime in.

Are you certain you want to add a Multi to your PPL before you have your instrument ticket? I did this personally, and regret it. It was simply a waste of money.
If you plan on continuing your training, presumably your IR rating would be next in line which I can logically assume will be done in a single (Unless of course you ave deeeeeep pockets).

Anyway, if you get your PPL-ME add on on, and then get your PPL-SE IR, you will have to go back and take another checkride in a Multi in order to have the "Single Approach Only" Limitation removed. On the other hand, if you got your PPL IR first when you went to add your ME rating you only have to do an extra single approach and you have your PPL-ME IR free and clear.

It will save you money in the end by getting your PPL IR first, and quite honestly what are you going to do with a PPL-ME anyway? No one is going to rent you a multi, so it is really just bragging rights.

Food for thought. Good Luck.
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He couldn't have said it better. I has the same issue and it haunted me for years. Your ticket will say "restricted for VFR only".
 
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