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Photo flights can be really tricky with dissimilar aircraft... slow speeds, bank angle, and separation can be hard variables to bring together.

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ryan1234 said:
Photo flights can be really tricky with dissimilar aircraft... slow speeds, bank angle, and separation can be hard variables to bring together.
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Which is why dissimilar form flight is always a thoroughly briefed item. Even two somewhat familiar aircraft......when Id fly with another formation of say F-16s for example.....Id brief A-10 formation references for them and they'd brief me the same, if it becomes needed. I can remember a distinct time it was needed in an emergency situation when I was in the 117 back in the day, although it was more of an "on the fly" situation and not a prebriefed one.
 
MikeD said:
Which is why dissimilar form flight is always a thoroughly briefed item. Even two somewhat familiar aircraft......when Id fly with another formation of say F-16s for example.....Id brief A-10 formation references for them and they'd brief me the same, if it becomes needed. I can remember a distinct time it was needed in an emergency situation when I was in the 117 back in the day, although it was more of an "on the fly" situation and not a prebriefed one.
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Yes... there were a number of interesting things that came up. The photo aircraft (Bonanza) told us he was making a climbing right turn when we were stacked in a fairly tight right echelon, he was doing around 120. Obviously, as you know, this would be really bad because of the L-39's minimum control speed combined with the need for a slower airspeed on the inside of the turn. Luckily, the suggestion was made to break off and try again in straight and level flight above 150 knots.
 
ryan1234 said:
Yes... there were a number of interesting things that came up. The photo aircraft (Bonanza) told us he was making a climbing right turn when we were stacked in a fairly tight right echelon, he was doing around 120. Obviously, as you know, this would be really bad because of the L-39's minimum control speed combined with the need for a slower airspeed on the inside of the turn. Luckily, the suggestion was made to break off and try again in straight and level flight above 150 knots.
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Heck, do it in a descent if you need to too, straight and level or in a turn. It's what tankers do with A-10s they're dragging when we're at altitude; a tobbagan.
 
ryan1234 said:
You found our hangar... the Primo, T-28, and MiG-17 and a few L-39s are there now...few days off and then heading up to Portsmouth on the 11th
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KGB at work as my buddy says :D nice mix there. The tug was fast within couple minutes they repositioned L39 and MIG, I ran for the camera it was too late and too far. We came as flight of two to drop a plane with prop shop.
 
Fencer said:
KGB at work as my buddy says :D nice mix there. The tug was fast within couple minutes they repositioned L39 and MIG, I ran for the camera it was too late and too far. We came as flight of two to drop a plane with prop shop.
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Well if you're in the area again, let me know and I'll come out and show you around.
 
Cool. Would love to take a look. Most likely the plane will be ready on Friday and we will come to pick her up.
 
Where am I? Somebody out there has to recognize this. I'll give you a hint, I parked my airplane there today.

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And another from today...

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