Re: Airline Baggage Fees and Ancillary Fees Are Not Going Aw
Maybe thats why the ticket was so cheap....
Maybe thats why the ticket was so cheap....
Airline Baggage Fees and Ancillary Fees Are Not Going Away
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num1bearsfan
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Assuming you meant Delta, you can take solace in the fact that it's no longer the case... CVG-ATL-LAX on Delta one way for tomorrow runs $680.
Assuming you meant Delta, you can take solace in the fact that it's no longer the case... CVG-ATL-LAX on Delta one way for tomorrow runs $680.
Re: Airline Baggage Fees and Ancillary Fees Are Not Going Aw
On the other side of the coin, I went to an interview in Dallas during last winters snow storms, that decimated the airlines. I was bumped from my non-rev ticket slot, and wasn't going to be able to get anywhere till Sunday (everything was over booked). I tried to buy a ticket to get from Dallas to LAX to guarantee my seat, and it was going to cost me $1100. Gouge much? I ended up renting a car and driving home.
Yet another reason I don't want to fly 121. It was a 121 interview I was on. The one 135 operator I have worked for will do everything in his power to get me home in a situation like that, or get me a hotel room at least. This company basically told me I was screwed.
On the other side of the coin, I went to an interview in Dallas during last winters snow storms, that decimated the airlines. I was bumped from my non-rev ticket slot, and wasn't going to be able to get anywhere till Sunday (everything was over booked). I tried to buy a ticket to get from Dallas to LAX to guarantee my seat, and it was going to cost me $1100. Gouge much? I ended up renting a car and driving home.
Yet another reason I don't want to fly 121. It was a 121 interview I was on. The one 135 operator I have worked for will do everything in his power to get me home in a situation like that, or get me a hotel room at least. This company basically told me I was screwed.
upup89
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They didnt positive space you to and from?
They didnt positive space you to and from?
SpiraMirabilis
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And a lot of 135 operators won't even give you any kind of ticket to interview at.
You're comparing apples to oranges. How a 135 operator treats its employees vs how a 121 operator treats its MAYBE employees who haven't even passed their checkride yet. I'm not criticizing the thrust of your statement though, QoL at most 135 operators exceeds that of regional airlines.
And a lot of 135 operators won't even give you any kind of ticket to interview at.
You're comparing apples to oranges. How a 135 operator treats its employees vs how a 121 operator treats its MAYBE employees who haven't even passed their checkride yet. I'm not criticizing the thrust of your statement though, QoL at most 135 operators exceeds that of regional airlines.
darrenf
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I don't think you were being gouged. I don't think you were even paying a higher fare because of the weather. I think you were just paying the walk up fare.
I don't think you were being gouged. I don't think you were even paying a higher fare because of the weather. I think you were just paying the walk up fare.
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No. No help at all. I called the HR lady I had been dealing with to tell her about my experince(I was very polite and just wanted to know what had happened), and found out through what I would consider a reliable source that I was basically black listed at that carrier for speaking up about it as well.
No. No help at all. I called the HR lady I had been dealing with to tell her about my experince(I was very polite and just wanted to know what had happened), and found out through what I would consider a reliable source that I was basically black listed at that carrier for speaking up about it as well.
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Rental split between two people, gas, etc., I spent about $300, plus about 24 hours of driving. But I see what you are doing with the question, and IMO, it's irrelevant to the situation.
What I am getting at, is when the flights are over booked, they jack the prices to the moon, charging double of what it should. I can see $500 to get from Dallas to LA. But I can't see $1100 to get from Dallas to LA. I also can't see it costing $179 to make the same trip. You are taking what I am saying out of context, and picking it apart for your own gain. Obvious flame bait/ trolling is obvious.
Rental split between two people, gas, etc., I spent about $300, plus about 24 hours of driving. But I see what you are doing with the question, and IMO, it's irrelevant to the situation.
What I am getting at, is when the flights are over booked, they jack the prices to the moon, charging double of what it should. I can see $500 to get from Dallas to LA. But I can't see $1100 to get from Dallas to LA. I also can't see it costing $179 to make the same trip. You are taking what I am saying out of context, and picking it apart for your own gain. Obvious flame bait/ trolling is obvious.
upup89
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Wow.... I cant imagine why anyone would take offense to bringing up a simple concern. I still cant wrap my head around why they don't positive space interviewees. I've done 2 airline interviews and that is how I was sent to and from home both times.
Wow.... I cant imagine why anyone would take offense to bringing up a simple concern. I still cant wrap my head around why they don't positive space interviewees. I've done 2 airline interviews and that is how I was sent to and from home both times.
germb747
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Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate baggage fees and feel insulted when my $800 plane ticket won't cover the cost of checking my bag, but from a business point of view, I agree the fees aren't going anywhere anytime soon. It's too easy for customers to go online, sort tickets by cost, and pick the cheapest one. So, if an airline expects to sell a seat, they have to strive to offer seats at the cheapest cost to make the top of the list (even if that means undercutting the competition by a few bucks). That's why services that were once included are now charged later (after the ticket is already bought). It's hard to maintain loyalty to an particular airline anymore since they basically all provide the same dismal level of service. Since basically all the airlines except Southwest are charging these fees now, you're going to be paying them anyway. Hell, Delta made nearly $4 BILLION off extra fees last year. Since their profit margin is a few hundred million dollars (at best), chances are the fees saved their bacon. I'm curious to know whether there's been a study to quantify how much business has been lost or transferred as a result of baggage fees, because naturally that'd eat into the $4 Billion revenue, but how much is a question mark.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hate baggage fees and feel insulted when my $800 plane ticket won't cover the cost of checking my bag, but from a business point of view, I agree the fees aren't going anywhere anytime soon. It's too easy for customers to go online, sort tickets by cost, and pick the cheapest one. So, if an airline expects to sell a seat, they have to strive to offer seats at the cheapest cost to make the top of the list (even if that means undercutting the competition by a few bucks). That's why services that were once included are now charged later (after the ticket is already bought). It's hard to maintain loyalty to an particular airline anymore since they basically all provide the same dismal level of service. Since basically all the airlines except Southwest are charging these fees now, you're going to be paying them anyway. Hell, Delta made nearly $4 BILLION off extra fees last year. Since their profit margin is a few hundred million dollars (at best), chances are the fees saved their bacon. I'm curious to know whether there's been a study to quantify how much business has been lost or transferred as a result of baggage fees, because naturally that'd eat into the $4 Billion revenue, but how much is a question mark.
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All that aside, I too have put out lots of my own money (well over a grand) to head off for an interview and come home unsuccessful, and that doubly blows when I had a contact on the inside (the DO) that told me I was exactly what the company was looking for only to be told later that I didn't make the cut. I truly feel for you on that one. At the same time I think you're taking the frustration that you're feeling regarding this interview situation and projecting it onto their pricing model. Yes, they should've taken care of you, but at the same time you were a non-rev ticket and you got bumped because someone else was willing to drop a grand. Stuff happens, and taking it personal affects you more than it affects them.
Um, not really. The airline, for whatever reason, set a fare that they thought would be bought, and you, for whatever reason, decided that it wasn't worth that to you. Pretty simple.
Are you fully aware of all the little variables that go into airline pricing? Do you know all the costs involved when a snowstorm rolls through area area that doesn't really see a lot of snow? We've had a couple 121 guys chime in that it was probably the full walk-up fare price, and given all the variables that you brought up the airline had no incentive to discount from that. Dollars to donuts that there was somewhere to whom that price was worth every penny for whatever reason.
Um, I don't get anything out of this, I'm just pointing out that there are differences as to what you see as a fair price and what the airline sees as a fair price given the situation.
Oh come on now, I've pulled the pin on much better flame baits than that. At least give me that.
All that aside, I too have put out lots of my own money (well over a grand) to head off for an interview and come home unsuccessful, and that doubly blows when I had a contact on the inside (the DO) that told me I was exactly what the company was looking for only to be told later that I didn't make the cut. I truly feel for you on that one. At the same time I think you're taking the frustration that you're feeling regarding this interview situation and projecting it onto their pricing model. Yes, they should've taken care of you, but at the same time you were a non-rev ticket and you got bumped because someone else was willing to drop a grand. Stuff happens, and taking it personal affects you more than it affects them.
I don't have any problems with the fees or walkup fares.
Remember, the idea of a high-speed nationalized rail network is supposedly an anti-business communist "European" idea so we need airlines to cover the vast expanses of our nation.
Airplanes are expensive, burn expensive fuel and (hopefully one day again) have well-paid, responsible flight crews and that all costs moolah.
Remember, the idea of a high-speed nationalized rail network is supposedly an anti-business communist "European" idea so we need airlines to cover the vast expanses of our nation.
Airplanes are expensive, burn expensive fuel and (hopefully one day again) have well-paid, responsible flight crews and that all costs moolah.