Bombardier Q500?

ppragman said:
Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes!

Oh, and Bombardier will farm out the development to beechcraft so that its built like a brick house, they will also certify it for single pilot ops.
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We're going to do a Discovery Channel special detailing the design and production of the Q. I will be playing the part of Olive Ann Beech, I'm already bald so wearing the wig is no problem. Pat, you play the engineer that comes up to me and says:
Engineer 1 (Pat): "Mrs. Beech, we're going to have some problem carrying a full load on the airplane meaning people and bags will get left behind."
Olive (Joe): "Why the hell is that?"
E 1: "Well, right now the airplane has put on so much weight during certification we won't have the useful load we thought. Maybe if we got some bigger engines but that's about the only way to fix it."
OAB: "Son, if the plane has X seats and X cargo space it's going to be filled up with X people and X bags and still takeoff with full tanks. Get some bigger engines and don't ever come back to me with this crap again."
E 1: "Yes Ma'am!"

Wait... did I just volunteer to be a woman character in my own mini-sode for Modern Marvels? That sounds stupid, maybe Right Seat Girl can do it?
 
jynxyjoe said:
We're going to do a Discovery Channel special detailing the design and production of the Q. I will be playing the part of Olive Ann Beech, I'm already bald so wearing the wig is no problem. Pat, you play the engineer that comes up to me and says:
Engineer 1 (Pat): "Mrs. Beech, we're going to have some problem carrying a full load on the airplane meaning people and bags will get left behind."
Olive (Joe): "Why the hell is that?"
E 1: "Well, right now the airplane has put on so much weight during certification we won't have the useful load we thought. Maybe if we got some bigger engines but that's about the only way to fix it."
OAB: "Son, if the plane has X seats and X cargo space it's going to be filled up with X people and X bags and still takeoff with full tanks. Get some bigger engines and don't ever come back to me with this crap again."
E 1: "Yes Ma'am!"

Wait... did I just volunteer to be a woman character in my own mini-sode for Modern Marvels? That sounds stupid, maybe Right Seat Girl can do it?
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*GRINS*

Ya damn right. They need to make an E Model 1900 that has PW150 motors on it, is RVSM certified, single pilot, and has even more fuel available.
 
ppragman said:
Freight. The door needs to be bigger, and there should be floor mounted rollers with a winch at the front of the cabin.
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You don't like the workout you get by pushing the 1000lb pallets in 100+ degree weather in Loredo Tx? :)
 
KLB said:
You don't like the workout you get by pushing the 1000lb pallets in 100+ degree weather in Loredo Tx? :)
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Well, actually, that doesn't really confront me any because we have pallet rollers in the back of the plane - however, if I were building a freight plane, I'd put them into the floor from day one.
 
jynxyjoe said:
I debated if I should post this, but I can't help myself.

Honestly Jtrain, what am I going to tell my family if I go back to flying props? How will I be able to look at myself in the mirror again? I just spent all this money on the IPod, Backpack (Tram's looked nice so I got one), and I polished my dome. I would have frosted but I have no real hair. How will I pretend I'm still a mainline pilot if I'm getting into the Q or the Saab? I know it says Delta or Airways on the side but the jig is up with the passengers!

You think the passengers will respect me the same? I know its the same uniform but GOD, I just don't feel like a real pilot without those JEEETETTSSTSTS!

Can we start putting tags on our shirts that say Jet Pilot so people know we are better?

Ah, I actually feel better after being wildly and unnecessarily sarcastic.
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You home on the 13th? I've got a long overnight up in your town.
 
jtrain609 said:
This is the only swept wing turboprop I can think of.
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Pilotdude3407 said:
Why do you think DAL got rid of the ATR's? They said it made them far more money per seat than the CRJ did but because their traveling public complained about it and how it wasn't a jet...well they axed it.
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Oh hell, I'll bet you a dollar it had more to do with "we want an all jet fleet" when the economics were better and gas was lower. The general public wants a 747 between LAX and Fresno too.
 
IIRC they were talking about a shorter and longer Q400 back in early 2008...I think about the time ATR announced their "new" plane.

Autothrust Blue....that's Snowy!
 
I would think that if they made a turboprop it should look something like that md-80 unducted fan so it looks like a jet
 
Boris Badenov said:
Every account I've read suggests it's an underpowered, overcomplex, overweight dog. Looks cool, though.
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Yes sir. That's why I want to fly it.

Doug Taylor said:
Oh hell, I'll bet you a dollar it had more to do with "we want an all jet fleet" when the economics were better and gas was lower. The general public wants a 747 between LAX and Fresno too.
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No love for the Burrito Bomber it seems, although the passengers in San Luis Obispo actually seem to like it. Or they're glad they aren't riding Mesa to PHX, even if it is a shiny CRJ-900.

deadstick said:
Autothrust Blue....that's Snowy!
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Wooah!

TallFlyer said:
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yuck...
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jtrain609 said:
And the Q blasts past the ERJ on some routes, it just depends on the range. The Q can get up to altitude and cruising faster, where we spend forever climbing at .65 only to start to descend a few minutes later on some segments.
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I think 'Truck replied...but our .65 climb is roughly 400 kts, I think the Q even cruising is doing 350kts. Once we're in the mid-teens we're definitely going faster for the rest of the flight. About 90-100 knots faster in cruise.
 
Baronman said:
I think 'Truck replied...but our .65 climb is roughly 400 kts, I think the Q even cruising is doing 350kts. Once we're in the mid-teens we're definitely going faster for the rest of the flight. About 90-100 knots faster in cruise.
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This is typically right before the engines are due to be swapped. 360 knots is typical everyday, 365 is on a good plane and 370 is when the stars align and the airplane was just waxed.
 
Sitting in re-current ground this past week, we've heard some possibly good things going on with Alaska and Horizon. Apparently Aviation Partners Boeing has approached QX about putting winglets on the Q400's. They're looking for a 2-4% improvement on fuel burn with a slight increase in KTAS.

Also, Horizon is pushing pretty hard on getting our RNP status back and pursuing authorization of RNP .11. Which would lead everyone to believe that we're going to be flying in the State of Alaska Q1 of 2012. Word is that we're not going to furlough and possibly even start hiring again in the Fall (October). Alaska Air has recalled all pilots and is projecting to hire 100/year for the next 2 years. (Or atleast until Delta buys them).

For the Colganites here that are on the Q4, what's the guidance you guys get for using brakes when the airplane is cold? Apparently we've been going through brakes lately and they don't want us using them on the taxi out unless we absolutely have to, and then really heating them up on landing.
 
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