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Aurora

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From what I read, EK is having problems employing the required number of pilots. Do you envisage EK employing DEC's in the near future?
 
Aurora said:
From what I read, EK is having problems employing the required number of pilots. Do you envisage EK employing DEC's in the near future?
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A jumpseater (ex ASA now Virgin) this week said everyone he knew that went to Emirates is bailing, it is nothing close to what was promised. Personally I'd think if it was HALF what promised it would be tolerable but I'm not in their shoes.
 
jynxyjoe said:
A jumpseater (ex ASA now Virgin) this week said everyone he knew that went to Emirates is bailing, it is nothing close to what was promised. Personally I'd think if it was HALF what promised it would be tolerable but I'm not in their shoes.
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I know of someone there (via a close friend, I've yet to meet him) that can't leave soon enough. He's a single guy in his 30s. He cannot stand the trips on the A-330 any more and he apparently hates living in Dubai. The max days off now is something like 14 though I don't know the details to the rule. Kind of makes me think, what's the point of long-haul if you can't get 18-22 days off out of it? 14 days off where I work is really not that great, 9 months out of the year anyway.

I think if they did the foreign base option such as Cathay Pacific, they'd get a lot more applications.
 
Nick said:
I know of someone there (via a close friend, I've yet to meet him) that can't leave soon enough. He's a single guy in his 30s. He cannot stand the trips on the A-330 any more and he apparently hates living in Dubai. The max days off now is something like 14 though I don't know the details to the rule. Kind of makes me think, what's the point of long-haul if you can't get 18-22 days off out of it? 14 days off where I work is really not that great, 9 months out of the year anyway.

I think if they did the foreign base option such as Cathay Pacific, they'd get a lot more applications.
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It's bizarre how fast that QOL goes. Back in '03-'05 I was able to talk to lots of SIA crews and they were furious how fast their pay and QOL changed during the SARS stuff. When I was younger sitting on the top deck of a 747 briefing a crew I was saying to myself, "whatever man." Seven years later I hear that stuff and my butt puckers thinking about being in that situation. God I'm getting old.
 
I don't think its just a pilot thing over there. I was just speaking to a young air hostess ( not fight attendant :) ) yesterday and she is so glad to be out of there only after 3 years.
 
I know a few Capts.at C5 that have been trying to get on with Emirates... These guys go to every career fair and always get the same answer... "we really like you, come back when you have JET time..." They must not be hurting to bad.
 
Pilotforhire587 said:
I know a few Capts.at C5 that have been trying to get on with Emirates... These guys go to every career fair and always get the same answer... "we really like you, come back when you have JET time..." They must not be hurting to bad.
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Nope they are pretty ugly toward t-prop and prop guys. It's been eye opening how jet time is perceived to different employers.
 
jynxyjoe said:
Nope they are pretty ugly toward t-prop and prop guys. It's been eye opening how jet time is perceived to different employers.
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There are few majors the same way. I've always had to refrain from lampooning my career when the recruiters pat me on my head and tell me that I need to go sit right seat in an RJ ( saying things like "I hear GoJets is hiring. You should try there" or "you should take one of those jet transition courses") before I can get on with them. Some of those guys have forgotten that they started out flying turboprops just like I'm flying now at the "commuters".

But I don't completely snap. I just smile and thank them for their time while the ulcer continues to develop in my mid section.
 
KLB said:
There are few majors the same way. I've always had to refrain from lampooning my career when the recruiters pat me on my head and tell me that I need to go sit right seat in an RJ ( saying things like "I hear GoJets is hiring. You should try there" or "you should take one of those jet transition courses") before I can get on with them. Some of those guys have forgotten that they started out flying turboprops just like I'm flying now at the "commuters".

But I don't completely snap. I just smile and thank them for their time while the ulcer continues to develop in my mid section.
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It's to the point when I see and hear crap like that I just scratch them off the list. Where is Midwest Airlines when you need them. :(
 
KLB said:
There are few majors the same way. I've always had to refrain from lampooning my career when the recruiters pat me on my head and tell me that I need to go sit right seat in an RJ ( saying things like "I hear GoJets is hiring. You should try there" or "you should take one of those jet transition courses") before I can get on with them. Some of those guys have forgotten that they started out flying turboprops just like I'm flying now at the "commuters".

But I don't completely snap. I just smile and thank them for their time while the ulcer continues to develop in my mid section.
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Yep, that "little" Q400 that I'll be back flying here soon...I should go to ASA so I can fly a CRJ200 and get "jet" time, even though it's a smaller plane that goes just alittle faster.
 
BTW, if anyone is interested I've got some EK company coolaid in the form of a recruitment video for pilots. I don't have a way to host it online though unless anyone else has a solution for that.... It's a 20 min video that's about 126 MB.
 
KLB said:
There are few majors the same way. I've always had to refrain from lampooning my career when the recruiters pat me on my head and tell me that I need to go sit right seat in an RJ ( saying things like "I hear GoJets is hiring. You should try there" or "you should take one of those jet transition courses") before I can get on with them. Some of those guys have forgotten that they started out flying turboprops just like I'm flying now at the "commuters".

But I don't completely snap. I just smile and thank them for their time while the ulcer continues to develop in my mid section.
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Oh man, I'm right there with you on that one!!! Nothing like being a 121 check airman, zero failures, thousands (yep, that was plural) of TPIC and still unable to get the phone to ring from my employer of choice (currently, and actively hiring, BTW). Wow, I sooo need to jump ship and earn 20K in the right seat of some awful RJ, 'cause that's sure to make me a better pilot!!!!!!!!!!
 
Cruise said:
Oh man, I'm right there with you on that one!!! Nothing like being a 121 check airman, zero failures, thousands (yep, that was plural) of TPIC and still unable to get the phone to ring from my employer of choice (currently, and actively hiring, BTW). Wow, I sooo need to jump ship and earn 20K in the right seat of some awful RJ, 'cause that's sure to make me a better pilot!!!!!!!!!!
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I feel for you, that's ridiculous. I would wager to say that the flying you're doing right now is more challenging than operating a turbofan in several ways... just dealing with a lamp-driven warning/caution system is less straightforward than an EICAS display. At the same time, you mentioned another useless filtering parameter - zero failed checkrides. I really don't think that a busted general aviation ride should be held against you any more than the fact that you fly a turboprop.

If it makes you feel any better, SWA scheduled interviews with multiple non-121 candidates, including someone in their fifties.

J.
 
C150J said:
I feel for you, that's ridiculous. I would wager to say that the flying you're doing right now is more challenging than operating a turbofan in several ways... just dealing with a lamp-driven warning/caution system is less straightforward than an EICAS display. At the same time, you mentioned another useless filtering parameter - zero failed checkrides. I really don't think that a busted general aviation ride should be held against you any more than the fact that you fly a turboprop.

If it makes you feel any better, SWA scheduled interviews with multiple non-121 candidates, including someone in their fifties.

J.
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Agree completely! Although, I know they do look at that stuff and I happen to have a clean slate.....for now. I'm certain my day is coming, it's just a matter of when. To go through a career and never bust a ride just doesn't seem as though the odds are in your favor. I certainly accept that reality; but would like to move on before my pinkslip day comes. :D
 
Cruise said:
Oh man, I'm right there with you on that one!!! Nothing like being a 121 check airman, zero failures, thousands (yep, that was plural) of TPIC and still unable to get the phone to ring from my employer of choice (currently, and actively hiring, BTW). Wow, I sooo need to jump ship and earn 20K in the right seat of some awful RJ, 'cause that's sure to make me a better pilot!!!!!!!!!!
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An ex pilot of yours in the same situation (ex cop too btw). All because the blades were on the outside of the engine, instead of internally.

What a joke.
 
Flying a JEEEETTTTT is different. You can't understand till you do it. It's AMAZING. My pants had to be let out six inches the day I first wore my Jet Captain hat.

You're lucky you get to breathe the same air as I do. Now, it's the rusted out '86 Trooper...don't scratch the paint. *key-toss*
 
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