ATP plane down at FWS

Company boards indicate that everything is alright, was announced as a "hard landing." Student and instructor walked away safely.
 
vheissu said:
Hard landing seems like an understatement..
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You guys this was a greaser. Obviously it was a very nice landing. Naw but seriously glad everyone is okay. To be honest sometimes I am shocked to see how much pressure the tubular spring strut can withhold on landing. LOL. Some of my students had some pretty hard ones ;)
 
Well my guess is they porpoised and gained some altitude then had it stall, which was then too late for the instructor to recover.
 
The plane doesn't appear to be in one piece and certainly looks like a hard landing.

Glad everybody walked away though...
 
Anyone know if the plane was ADS or GKY based? Glad to see that everyone walked away.


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cmhumphr said:
Air Force pilots have to confirm with the tower that their gear is down?
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I've typically been queried on my gear status when doing low approaches at KRDR. The phraseology was usually something like "cleared low approach, confirm gear down."
 
cmhumphr said:
Air Force pilots have to confirm with the tower that their gear is down?
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I don't know how their controllers are instructed, but it does seem to be the norm at USAF bases.

I'm pretty certain they don't do it any longer, but the USN used to have someone stationed at the end of the runway with a flare gun. His job was to fire a red flare if an airplane came in gear up, thereby signaling the pilot to go around.
 
Gave an IPC a while ago to a F-16 pilot in the 172, every approach he would call tower and say "Gear down, cleared to land."

I sat in my seat and facepalmed myself.
 
CameronF said:
Gave an IPC a while ago to a F-16 pilot in the 172, every approach he would call tower and say "Gear down, cleared to land."

I sat in my seat and facepalmed myself.
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At least as of 05, last time I landed at an air force field, that was still the norm.

Not worthy of a facepalm, if you didn't say it, tower would ask.
 
CameronF said:
Gave an IPC a while ago to a F-16 pilot in the 172, every approach he would call tower and say "Gear down, cleared to land."

I sat in my seat and facepalmed myself.
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"XXX, Base, Gear, Stop/Touch and Go/Option" is pretty standard phraseology for us.

Don't facepalm yourself; choke yourself.
 
CameronF said:
Sorry I forgot to explain that this was just a plain Class C civilian airport.
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The mil-only guys do what they're trained and used to, as making a gear call is required by reg for their ops EVEN at a civilian field. That habit certainly and understandably would transfer over to a civil aircraft.
 
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