Q400 growth

sherpa

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Just heard a strong rumor from a reliable source (can not divulge) that there is a sizable growth plan moving forward for the Q400. Shed’s light on why MGMT wanted this deal done so badly.

45 Q’s with 15 going to DEN for the Calnited and 30 in MSP for Delta. The 30 will have a 2 class configuration.

Hang on everyone!!
 
Hmmm...if that's the case, I might have to get you guys to walk my resume in. I'd much rather fly a Q400 out of MSP than commute to SEA to fly one.
 
Any growth would be good, but I've been hearing the Q in DEN rumor since I started. Here's to hoping it comes true soon!
 
Just heard a strong rumor from a reliable source (can not divulge) that there is a sizable growth plan moving forward for the Q400. Shed’s light on why MGMT wanted this deal done so badly.

45 Q’s with 15 going to DEN for the Calnited and 30 in MSP for Delta. The 30 will have a 2 class configuration.

Hang on everyone!!

I heard we were buying Porter for more Canada access, and the ability to not use the Increased ref. spd switch.

:) :)
 
Just heard a strong rumor from a reliable source (can not divulge) that there is a sizable growth plan moving forward for the Q400. Shed’s light on why MGMT wanted this deal done so badly.

45 Q’s with 15 going to DEN for the Calnited and 30 in MSP for Delta. The 30 will have a 2 class configuration.

Hang on everyone!!

I could see DL going for the Q with the increase in fuel prices and the cheap labor. I'm sorry, but the Q rates are crappy!
 
I could see DL going for the Q with the increase in fuel prices and the cheap labor. I'm sorry, but the Q rates are crappy!

In the grand scheme of things, the hourly wage of the crew is very minimal compared to all the other cost factors.
 
The Q rates are nearly the best in the industry and equal or better than Horizon in a couple years.

I know... "I dont care!"
 
I could see DL going for the Q with the increase in fuel prices and the cheap labor. I'm sorry, but the Q rates are crappy!

With your lack of knowledge of the contract and a dickhead comment like that you must work for ASA. ASA stocks DB's like they are going out of style(No, not Corners or Safeties either).

I think ASA's captain rates are "crappy". In Mesaba's concessionary contract our 50 seat CA's made more money that ASA 70 seat CA's. By December 1, 2012 All of the Q CA's and FO's will make more than their ASA 70 seat counter parts. So in 20 months all these people that work for "crappy" rates will be out earning you in a slow little turbo prop maybe find out what the real deal is. Instead of me just calling parts of your contract crap I ask you to get off your ASA high horse and do a little research and smile or say "hi" when some one walks by and is trying to be nice. Believe it or not ASA isn't the end all of regional airlines.

Remember to :D
 
With your lack of knowledge of the contract and a dickhead comment like that you must work for ASA. ASA stocks DB's like they are going out of style(No, not Corners or Safeties either).

I think ASA's captain rates are "crappy". In Mesaba's concessionary contract our 50 seat CA's made more money that ASA 70 seat CA's. By December 1, 2012 All of the Q CA's and FO's will make more than their ASA 70 seat counter parts. So in 20 months all these people that work for "crappy" rates will be out earning you in a slow little turbo prop maybe find out what the real deal is. Instead of me just calling parts of your contract crap I ask you to get off your ASA high horse and do a little research and smile or say "hi" when some one walks by and is trying to be nice. Believe it or not ASA isn't the end all of regional airlines.

Remember to :D

Calling the guy who is probably single handedly responsible for more people on this website finding jobs than anyone else a dickhead...classy.
 
id love to see a west coast base for the q400! Denver or LA would be awesome. Doing a lot of the 434 rides this year, i know that our FEds don't want to sign off on any part of a Denver base. Merging with Mesaba and incorporating their excellent training department will help, as well as the fact that we have a new POI and will be migrating to the Mesaba Feds soon. MSP base? That would help a lot of the deplacements moving east. There is def something cooking if they are recalling all of the furloughs
 
That would help a lot of the deplacements moving east. There is def something cooking if they are recalling all of the furloughs

You have to wonder if the company was gambling on only a few coming back, or if they actually planned for every single one of them saying yes.
 
I'll believe that when I see it...

Are the payrates on APC corrected for the 12 month pay rates? Just curious, I'm on 4th year pay, and Q captain over there shows $71 an hour, which factoring in that is for 11 pay periods not 12, comes to $65 an hour. Here are our fourth year captain rates:

Current 12/1/11 12/1/12 12/1/13 12/1/14 12/1/15
62.17 $ 65.39 $ 68.78 $ 71.16 $ 73.62 $ 75.09

Secondly, it seems incredibly weird to me that I might be defending Colgan, and I believe this is a first :) . I'm just really happy right now, I'm flying a little under 60 hours for the month of March, but will be crediting in the 120's! I purposely bid for my sim, and my 3 days of recurrent ground on my days off. I also have one week vacation that was worth 21 hours. My sim got cancelled to put someone who was going to dequal in instead of me, and wait, I get cancellation pay!! On those 2 days I would have been on the sim, on top of my cancellation pay, I picked up 2 day trips. I'm crediting a little under 20 hours for two day trips. This is the first time I've had a contract, and the soft pay and min day is racking up big time for me. I have no idea what other airlines soft pays come out to be, but man, life is good. And the number one quality of life increase for me is NO MORE COMMUTING!!!! CJC growing in IAH is a dream come true!!
 
What part do you need to see? Take a look at the contract, look under the 50-78 seat rates, then scroll on over to DOS+3. Those rates are equal to Horizon rates, DOS+4-5 are better than Horizon rates.
 
Calling the guy who is probably single handedly responsible for more people on this website finding jobs than anyone else a dickhead...classy.


Don't know who he works for but he doesnt represent our views at cjc!! I'll admit to being a dickhead on my own I don't need other people to point that out :)
 
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