That's the sign of a successful pilot, you are my hero.
This guy is my hero...
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moxiepilot
Well-Known Member
yeah, lol funny. when it went to 8 a side i lost my beer.
Ajax
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
More epaulets = more better, amirite?
Orange Anchor
New Member
No doubt there are flap configurations that prevent one fly using certain tools that may be available on other aircraft. I had the chance to do FULL STALLS in the 737 and it was as simple as the stalls in a C-150. Lower the nose, add power and fly out. Simple.
And too, there is a lot of stuff out there that is not fact but is a result of training. For example, the early Learjets (23,24,25) have a bad rep as being difficult to lfy and unforgiving. Not so. The 20 series were fast machines but if you flew them per the book, you were rewarded with a good response.
And too, usually airplanes will tell you when they don't like what you are doing. For example, with the 737 there is a buzz that starts before the shaker and it continues to develop to the point where you are in the shaker but the WHOLE airplane is buffeting as though, "HEY DUMBASS.. this ain't flying. Do you really want to do this?"
we live in a period where airplanes now talk to you unlike early airplanes (30s-40s-50s) where if you did stuff there was little to no warning. They simple tried to kill you.
amjon
Pilot and A Half (for now
The dispatcher at my school just bought the new Lightspeeds with bluetooth. He said they work even out of the plane. I dared him to put on a uniform and the headset and walk into Walmart talking on his phone with the bluetooth. He then dared one of the other students to do it. In the end, no one would, but I think it would be funny (especially in Daytona).
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Absolutely, 100% kickass. Couldn't agree more, and the presentation was just the icing on the cake. That guy has even more stripes than I do! You should listen to him!
Also, WRT what an airplane can or can't do: "We" (not me, obviously) used to do patterns in 210s and Barons that make the "short" one in the video look like a 747 pattern. Sometimes in formation. Never scratched the paint.
If, for some weird reason, you were in an MU-2 and wanted to get on the ground in a hurry (Obviously, no conscientious 135 pilot would ever be in a hurry...you're a Professional...whatever that means) you could pop flaps 40 and land like a vastly overpowered cub...I've uh heard of them stopping in 1000ft.
Now, I'm not recommending any of these things...particularly not in a JEEETTTTTTTTT. But the notion that you have to fly a 5 mile final in ANYTHING, let alone a 152, is absurd. Not just absurd, but stupid, and indicative of not being a master of the airplane. Let me just sit back in my rocker for a second and smoke on my corn cob pipe and say (without offense, nothing an old guy in a rocker says can ever be offensive): Kids these days fly numbers, not wings, and that's not just dumb, it's dangerous...way more dangerous than flying an airplane within its design parameters.
PS. Get off my lawn.
Also, WRT what an airplane can or can't do: "We" (not me, obviously) used to do patterns in 210s and Barons that make the "short" one in the video look like a 747 pattern. Sometimes in formation. Never scratched the paint.
If, for some weird reason, you were in an MU-2 and wanted to get on the ground in a hurry (Obviously, no conscientious 135 pilot would ever be in a hurry...you're a Professional...whatever that means) you could pop flaps 40 and land like a vastly overpowered cub...I've uh heard of them stopping in 1000ft.
Now, I'm not recommending any of these things...particularly not in a JEEETTTTTTTTT. But the notion that you have to fly a 5 mile final in ANYTHING, let alone a 152, is absurd. Not just absurd, but stupid, and indicative of not being a master of the airplane. Let me just sit back in my rocker for a second and smoke on my corn cob pipe and say (without offense, nothing an old guy in a rocker says can ever be offensive): Kids these days fly numbers, not wings, and that's not just dumb, it's dangerous...way more dangerous than flying an airplane within its design parameters.
PS. Get off my lawn.
z987k
Well-Known Member
Yeah TGR! Way to incorporate two passions!
ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
Hey, I know Drake, that's pertty cool!
Wastegate
Well-Known Member
Tell him he is living the dream if he doesn't know already
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
Unfortunately company procedure almost prohibits us from anything inside of 5 mile final, now. Used to could Do a 2.5 mile pattern easy-peezy in a CRJ, but now we have a requirement to be stable at 1000' (on centerline/loc, PAPI/GS, Vref fully configured, all checklists done)...
Gonzo
Well-Known Member
How do you guys do the Expressway Visual 31 in LGA or the Parkway to 13L/R in JFK or River Visual 19 at DCA?
TwoTwoLeft
o- - - - - - -l
Sounds like you need a little fun in your life! Go find a plane to rent. The hell with 45dg... Abeam the numbers, power to idle. Point the stick at the numbers, bury the opposite rudder & fall out of the sky like a waxed manhole cover, kick it out & stick it on the numbers! Technically you're stabilized, and it's one helluva good time!
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
Good question. I brought this up with our FOQA team and the answer seemed to be: talk to the standards folks in our base.
The FOQA admin's personal thought on it is "if it's charted, you can abide by the charted standards and still be considered stable."
The new 1000' rule was meant to reel in the cowboy ways of some of our guys..... mostly CA's, mind you, with FO's not willing to call the Go Around...
ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
Lol, I have a "friend" that's been known to not be stable until 100', then use the last 10 seconds to stabilize up and land. Single pilot is good stuff.
imatworkallday
Well-Known Member
The dispatcher at my school just bought the new Lightspeeds with bluetooth. He said they work even out of the plane. I dared him to put on a uniform and the headset and walk into Walmart talking on his phone with the bluetooth. He then dared one of the other students to do it. In the end, no one would, but I think it would be funny (especially in Daytona).
I would do it.
R
Roger, Roger
Guest
Ha! I know that dude too! He kept coming by and chatting while I was changing a cylinder on the ramp at an HNS! He's a pretty funny dude to talk to.
*edit* just watched the video, that's pretty much exactly how he talks in real life.
Xcaliber
El Chupacabra
That's...that's...you know, I could crack fun at you in so many different ways, but I'll refrain. Let me just say that it is entirely possible fit 5 planes into a normal sized pattern to one runway at an uncontrolled field. Used to do it every day back in college without issue. At GFK (towered), it wasn't uncommon to see as many as 10 planes in the pattern with maybe a mile extended upwind (sorry, departure) and downwind legs. If people are flying patterns correctly and doing what they're supposed to, you can fit a lot of aircraft in a small amount of airspace safely.