scooter2525
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Anyone have any experience with these? How about these versus the non pressurised version?
Pressurised Cheiftain
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scooter2525
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Ah. Thats what it is. Good useful load?
jhugz
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I remember looking at one while I was helping someone buy a cabin class twin. In pretty much all categories it fell short to a 414.
scooter2525
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Thanks.
SurferLucas
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They're MX hogs and like older Piper twins that weren't produced in great numbers, they have less than stellar product support.
Look at the 414/421's... You'll be much happier.
Look at the 414/421's... You'll be much happier.
trafficinsight
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At first I thought you were talking about a Cake album.... 
ryan1234
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scooter2525
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I'm convinced, but why?
KLB
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I'm pretty sure that you've flown them around for AMF. The pressurization systems probably removed. I saw them here and there on the line when I flew them.
Cessnaflyer
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
We have a customer come in and says the only reason he owns one is that he beats the pants off a Cheyenne for speed and really beats it in maintenance costs (as in way higher). He was happy when the engines made it 1000 hours.
Patrick
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Had one try and kill me about 2 months ago when the left engine quit right after rotation...
There is a P-Navajo, which is a completely different aircraft than the Mojave. The Mojave is actually the fuselage of an early Cheyenne with the wings of a Chieftain and the 350HP, inter-cooled Lycomings.
The P-Navajo is a POS, the Mojave is as well, arguably, however I'd take a Mojave over a P-Navajo any day. The upside to these over the Cessna 400 series aircraft is that they use Lycoming engines, and are thus far more likely to actually make TBO (and without a top overhaul at mid time). That's it.
The downsides are poor useful load, little ramp appeal (they're just not sexy aircraft, whereas I'd argue a 414 or 421 looks fantastic, especially with winglets), they are slower than a 414 or 421 (figure right at 200kts true at FL200 at 30") and at the end of the day, and because they are a bastard child Piper (only 50 were built in 1984), today, parts availability and support is a bit of an issue.
Also, the Mojave only has room for 5 seats back there, though it is a very comfortable aircraft to be a pax in.
They fly just like a Navajo, and get quite mushy up in the flight levels. A good autopilot is certainly nice up there.
There is a P-Navajo, which is a completely different aircraft than the Mojave. The Mojave is actually the fuselage of an early Cheyenne with the wings of a Chieftain and the 350HP, inter-cooled Lycomings.
The P-Navajo is a POS, the Mojave is as well, arguably, however I'd take a Mojave over a P-Navajo any day. The upside to these over the Cessna 400 series aircraft is that they use Lycoming engines, and are thus far more likely to actually make TBO (and without a top overhaul at mid time). That's it.
The downsides are poor useful load, little ramp appeal (they're just not sexy aircraft, whereas I'd argue a 414 or 421 looks fantastic, especially with winglets), they are slower than a 414 or 421 (figure right at 200kts true at FL200 at 30") and at the end of the day, and because they are a bastard child Piper (only 50 were built in 1984), today, parts availability and support is a bit of an issue.
Also, the Mojave only has room for 5 seats back there, though it is a very comfortable aircraft to be a pax in.
They fly just like a Navajo, and get quite mushy up in the flight levels. A good autopilot is certainly nice up there.