Departing KSAN VFR
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Bumblebee
Commodore
I think it is as simple as calling the clearance delivery frequency on your Jep chart and requesting a departure clearance.
The Gardener
Terrafirma Phobic
I go in and out of SAN VFR all the time. Why would it be a problem? If you have to hold (VFR) inbound you can usually see an orca at Sea World which is just northwest of the airport. In all reality VFR is way quicker than IFR any day in a GA aircraft because of speed and spacing. Of all socal airports I really love SAN. Landmark takes great care of us and they will drop us off anywhere we like nearby. We go for lunch, maybe ice cream at Ghirardelli and then they come get us.
sdfcvoh
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IDK why, but just since its VFR out of a Class B. I've done it 500+ times from Class C but never VFR out of a B.
Thanks.... Just don't want to look like a dork in from of the passengers. "NXXXXX, why are you calling me for a VFR departure...."
The Gardener
Terrafirma Phobic
What makes you think a class B has the authority to deny VFR operations?
Bumblebee
Commodore
some airports require a call to departure clearance for any departure...
that's not how I took this...to me this was him trying to avoid an unnecessary radio call.
sdfcvoh
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Are they still charging their $25 fee?
sdfcvoh
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I don't. But just in case someone on this forum has advice against is why I am asking. Better to find out something ahead of time instead of be embarrassed in front of people that think I know what I'm doing.
Bumblebee
Commodore
So do you call clearance delivery before taxi?
sdfcvoh
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I would say yes. Same as C.
Bumblebee
Commodore
I would say yes as well, but Cody does it all the time....I only flew out of SAN with a release and an IFR clearance so it would be good to hear that the assumption I made was accurate.
The Gardener
Terrafirma Phobic
Just let clearance know what you are, and where your going. They'll give a heading, atitude and departure clearance. Just like class C.
Something like that, but they waive it with a fuel purchase, which I *think* was 20 gallons. Either way, $25 is cheaper than 2 taxi rides! Last time I was there though there was some construction on the north taxiway. They parked me in 'remote' parking so I did an intersection departure at it was easy peasy. Don't be shy. Of all class B areas I deal with they are the red carpet committee. One of my students was sent on a radar vectored tour of all the sites on his last trip to Brown. When I go to MYF I'll ask for a transition over Miramar so I can sneak a peak of the cool stuff. They will let you do just about anything if you ask nicely.
aloft
New Member
:yeahthat:
You: "Lindbergh Clearance, Cessna XXX is a Cessna 172/A, VFR to Santa Monica with Information Kilo"
Them: "Cessna XXX is cleared out of Bravo Airspace, maintain VFR, climb and maintain two-thousand, departure frequency xxx.x, squawk 1234".
Easy peasy.
The Gardener
Terrafirma Phobic
Only if ATIS requests me too. At SAN, they do.
fholbert
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They hold all departures, VFR or IFR, for arrivals.
fholbert
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Way cheaper to just pay the $25 than buy fuel.
Walk out the door and up the hill about 1000' and you'll find the trolley stop. $5 for an all day pass.
Look at my page here; http://160knots.com/SanDiego_KSAN.htm
Ever tried to get into LAS when it's busy VFR.
"Your going to have to wait a little while. Remain clear of Class Bravo."
fholbert
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Getting into SAN IFR is easy and I like it because it forces ATC to give you some wake turbulence separation. When VFR I always get something like; Number 2 following 767 1 mile final, traffic a 757 4 mile final, turn base now. Caution wake turbulence, cleared to land.
It's easier to get out VFR because they can turn you after takeoff so the fast movers can go right behind you. They usually want a turn right after takeoff and the heading they give takes you about 200' over the control tower. Once at night they were trying to get me to start my turn and all three wheels were still on the ground.
SoCal gives clearances into San Diego class B like candy on Halloween.
fholbert
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That's usually because flow is in effect and when you pop up VFR they have no place to put you. Even if you've received FF from center you don't have a reservation.