Friend with PPL doing commercial flying; what would YOU do?

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SurferLucas said:
Just prepping for this weekend, I "have" to work Saturday-Wednesday, and by "have to work" I mean that I have to fly to Marathon in the Keys and sit/drink beer :(
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It's gotta be done.

If you're not careful, you'll get the boat keys too.
 
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Polar742 said:
It's gotta be done.

If you're not careful, you'll get the boat keys too.
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SurferLucas said:
Unfortunately out of the good stuff, but the new Maker's 46 is very tasty.

Just prepping for this weekend, I "have" to work Saturday-Wednesday, and by "have to work" I mean that I have to fly to Marathon in the Keys and sit/drink beer :(
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Wow - don't know how you can stand to work for this rag-tag outfit.

Next you'll be running over sqaure and boasting about it.

Bp244
 
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Hacker15e said:
Seriously dude? Look at the post...he's your friend.

You would turn him into the FSDO?

:rolleyes:
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ABSOLUTELY!! I think my judge in character is pretty good and never had to report a friend to the FAA, Police, etc but I would in a second.


Okie_Pilot said:
Wow, really?

So today a person with a PPL that is and has been flying possibly questionable commercial activities is as dangerous as a drunk driver... The same pilot takes the Commercial checkride tomorrow morning and gets a new plastic card that replaces the word "Private" with "Commercial". He's no longer as dangerous as a drunk driver... Is that correct?
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He obviously has no regards to the regulations so therefore I stand by my comment that he is as dangerous as a drunk driver.

darrenf said:
Really? I'm pretty sure that with my PPL I safely took people on airborn tours of Atlantic City. Only difference was that I was paying for the plane and fuel. If someone else had paid that would have made me as dangerous as a drunk driver?
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The external pressure is different when the trip is for hire and likely the reason the FAA installed a higher time requirement and additional flight test.
 
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You know the right answer so why are you asking the question?
 
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Callador said:
They will get him when they look at the remarks for the flight. "Illegal Commercial Ops". :)
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Polar742 said:
Only if the logbook is filled in with a pen with other than blue or black ink.
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Just making a general observation, but over the years when the topic of "looking at your logbook" comes up. Whether it be blue ink, whiteout, scribbles, .01 logging, or "flightbook" print outs taped to your logbook page, or the interview board examining your logbook page by page with a microscope;

You guys must realize that NOT EVERYBODY plans on getting their ATP and flying the big shiny jets. Maybe the guy wants to be a patrol pilot, crop duster, or a contract pilot that flies everybody's bonanzas and barons out at the local airport..

I'm not saying that what he is currently doing is correct or legal since none of us but one possibly even know what's doing, but when he hands his logbook to most likely the same checkride examiner that he took his PPL with, there's only one of two things that will probably occur. The examiner will say "oh, you've been doing some quality flying" or "you've been doing illegal flying and we can't count that towards your TT for your commercial certificate, this needs to stop."

IMHO I bet he'll probably just get his commercial ticket out of the deal.


Corporate Pilot said:
His biggest risk is bending the airplane and then having the insurance company say they are not going to pay.
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:yeahthat:

fholbert said:
Two choices:

A.) Turn him in now before he kills someone.

B.) Say you knew that was going to happen after 6 people get killed.

Last year we were watching a six being recovered by a huey. The six lost it on a IMC departure and spun in. A 100% legal flight.

The huey would drop a 50' sling into the tree line and come up with parts of the plane. Then fly the length of runway with a wing, then the motor, the tail area, another wing. It got real sobering when the huey flew the lenigh of the runway with 2 body bags swinging on a sling.
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You don't have to have a certain certificate or rating to kill someone. There is plenty of high time airline pilots that have killed themselves and others. The most experienced airshow and test pilots have been killed. Student pilots have also killed themselves. It's a sad fact, but as far as I know there is no rating or qualification that prevents you from being a danger to yourself or others every time you get into the cockpit.
 
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Baronpilot244 said:
Wow - don't know how you can stand to work for this rag-tag outfit.

Next you'll be running over sqaure and boasting about it.

Bp244
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It's ok, just don't run lean of peak...you don't want to shock cool the engine.

Is your boss going to be flying to any of the college football games this season?
 
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Okie_Pilot said:
Just making a general observation, but over the years when the topic of "looking at your logbook" comes up. Whether it be blue ink, whiteout, scribbles, .01 logging, or "flightbook" print outs taped to your logbook page, or the interview board examining your logbook page by page with a microscope;

You guys must realize that NOT EVERYBODY plans on getting their ATP and flying the big shiny jets. Maybe the guy wants to be a patrol pilot, crop duster, or a contract pilot that flies everybody's bonanzas and barons out at the local airport..

I'm not saying that what he is currently doing is correct or legal since none of us but one possibly even know what's doing, but when he hands his logbook to most likely the same checkride examiner that he took his PPL with, there's only one of two things that will probably occur. The examiner will say "oh, you've been doing some quality flying" or "you've been doing illegal flying and we can't count that towards your TT for your commercial certificate, this needs to stop."

IMHO I bet he'll probably just get his commercial ticket out of the deal.
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I was just joking around, of course no one is going to put something like that in their logbook. I was just agreeing with the guy who said no one is probably going to catch him. If someone audits your logbook, and only your logbook, they aren't really going to know why you were flying, just that you flew.
 
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Don't rat.

Something will stop the operation sooner rather than later, without your involvement.
 
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It's funny so many of you guys want to protect him - but he is doing your profession/hobby no favors at all. In most work environments you sink the competition, not let them be unsafe and break the rules.
 
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Okie_Pilot said:
Just making a general observation, but over the years when the topic of "looking at your logbook" comes up. Whether it be blue ink, whiteout, scribbles, .01 logging, or "flightbook" print outs taped to your logbook page, or the interview board examining your logbook page by page with a microscope;

You guys must realize that NOT EVERYBODY plans on getting their ATP and flying the big shiny jets. Maybe the guy wants to be a patrol pilot, crop duster, or a contract pilot that flies everybody's bonanzas and barons out at the local airport..
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I guess I was ahead of my time when I was the interview board and hired people with blue ink, whiteout, scribbles, .01 logging.

They even got to fly shiny jets. Small jets, but they were shiny.

To me, the imperfect logbook tells a story and shows learning.

A perfect logbook seems fishy.

That's probably why my posts on the subject are well spread with sarcasm.
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