How to get a job referral from JC.

elmetal said:
I never thought of asking for a recommendation or getting a job through someone whom you've met online but I guess times they are a-changing.
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Both flying jobs I've had to date (aerial mapping and traffic watch) I got via the help of dudes here on JC whom I'd never met in person. I hope to make it 3-for-3 soon.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
Todd, I actually have to give you credit. While I've never much disagreed with your message in the past, in my opinion the way in which it was presented was often very off turning. I've noticed a big change in that recently. I've also noticed a lot less threads of people arguing with you for the sake of arguing. I think they're related!

Just thought that was worth being recognized.
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I would agree. Much more helpful and no where near as aggressive. What I noticed in the change was that people that countered his view for the most part as now asking questions instead of arguing. There are still exceptions to that, but I like that change.

ATN_Pilot said:
I think I must be getting softer in my "old age." :D ;)
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It was the name change. ;)

jerrywhite7 said:
here is some advice . . . dont post your own thread and then repeately put your foot in your mouth!!! I've had to learn that one . .OK, still learning that one!! DUMB, DUMB, DUMB!!!!
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I'm afraid that thread will never die.



Good info in this thread so far. It is amazing to hear people turning down interviews and jobs. What is the point in asking for a rec if you have no intention of taking the job?
 
mjg407 said:
:yup:

I will also agree that proper Engrish helps, and never, ever leave a message on the cell phone of a potential boss that says "Hey DUDE call me back, I need work". True story.
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Hey, DUDE...why are you airing my dirty laundry in public???
 
I referred a Flight Instructor once (that had 1500 hours of pattern time in a glass cockpit) to our 135 company. Big mistake. After spending 20 K on his training he quit 3 weeks later because our 310 did not have a GPS and he had to do an NDB approach in light icing conditions. Im much more careful who I refer.
 
Fly_Unity said:
..... he quit 3 weeks later because our 310 did not have a GPS and he had to do an NDB approach in light icing conditions. Im much more careful who I refer.
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Oh the horror!

Man....what a candyass. Although I'm seeing more and more pilots like this in my travels...
 
DL31082 said:
I've talked to Seggy on the phone as well.
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Me too!! ...Or so I've been told.. Lol. :beer:


The only thing that chaps my you-know-what, is that these little bits of advice, although wonderful & very true (:love:), aren't just common knowledge in such a small community of professionals... :dunno: I guess not everyone is as lucky as I am to be gifted intellectually, alluring and an amazing pilot. :D:sarcasm::D
 
MikeD said:
Oh the horror!

Man....what a candyass. Although I'm seeing more and more pilots like this in my travels...
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Candyass? You need at least 3 GPS's to be safe. I carry a 4th handheld, this way I never get lost. NDwha? Oh, and steam gauges are impossible to read...

/sacrasm off

I've seen more pilots like this as well. They are horribly disoriented w/o them. When I was flight instructing and we would start shooting a full procedure approach or an arc, I would ask, "Where are we right now?" A lot of them couldn't figure out w/o the gps. I think the GPS is a good tool, but it shouldn't be a crutch.
 
Fly_Unity said:
I referred a Flight Instructor once (that had 1500 hours of pattern time in a glass cockpit) to our 135 company. Big mistake. After spending 20 K on his training he quit 3 weeks later because our 310 did not have a GPS and he had to do an NDB approach in light icing conditions. Im much more careful who I refer.
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20k to get trained in a 310? Was he really behind the power curve?
 
After TWA my grandpa decided to instruct. For primary students he wouldn't teach or even let them use a nav-aid until they could plan and do a cross country using dead reckoning and pilotage as well as a whiz wheel (no electronic E6B's or calculators - batteries can fail you know). He would be aghast today. Of course, he thought you should do a spin before solo as well. He was a little old-school.
 
WacoFan said:
After TWA my grandpa decided to instruct. For primary students he wouldn't teach or even let them use a nav-aid until they could plan and do a cross country using dead reckoning and pilotage as well as a whiz wheel (no electronic E6B's or calculators - batteries can fail you know). He would be aghast today. Of course, he thought you should do a spin before solo as well. He was a little old-school.
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Never met the man, but I do like his style. I would let my students spin themselves if it got to that point (with me in the airplane of course). When it got to that point, I'd hold the input in for them if they didn't seem terrified and start talking real quick. Then "do you want to see that again?" I wish the requirment to demonstrate spins was still in the PTS. I think it should be there for the commercial level as well.
 
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