ForeFlight/iPad

LOGS said:
Hmm does foreflight only cover the US or do they have charts for around the world? Also is it still hard to pick up an ipad stateside or has the hype slowed down? Might need to pick one up during my vacation.

=Jason-
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U.S. Only.
 
Patrick said:
Nope. The iPhone doesn't have a true GPS chip, but relies on A-GPS, so once you're out of tower or wifi range, it's game over.

Also, the non-3G iPad doesn't have a GPS chip either. You don't have to pay for the 3G service, but you do need a 3G iPad. It will show location on the en route charts I believe, but not on the approach plates. This is due to a lack of accuracy during altitude changes (i.e. during an approach) due to the iPad's non-WAAS, non-aviation quality GPS chip.
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I am pretty sure the iphone does... I use the iphone (3G) a lot while flying and the GPS works just fine, even without GSM/WIFI receiption.
The A-GPS is just for getting a faster fix and better positioning.

Cheers,
Sandiegoflyr
 
Sandiegoflyr said:
I am pretty sure the iphone does... I use the iphone (3G) a lot while flying and the GPS works just fine, even without GSM/WIFI receiption.
The A-GPS is just for getting a faster fix and better positioning.

Cheers,
Sandiegoflyr
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My 3G has never been able to find my location. Ever. :dunno:
 
I'll say that I get accurate GPS position without reception on my i3G. Haven't used foreflight, but with any other map app, it's solid.
 
Question for seasoned CFIs here; is it a good idea to buy and use iPad by a primary student? Is it an aid to training?
 
Fencer said:
Question for seasoned CFIs here; is it a good idea to buy and use iPad by a primary student? Is it an aid to training?
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Not a seasoned CFI, but if I brought an ipad into private ground school with my salty old military CFI, he'd laugh/berate me right out the door, haha.

However, now that primary is over.....gimme. :cool:
 
Fencer said:
Question for seasoned CFIs here; is it a good idea to buy and use iPad by a primary student? Is it an aid to training?
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NO, students need to be taught in the traditional sense using paper charts. Their check rides and most interview will be based off using paper. Teach them old school first and then expose them to GPS, and EFB's etc.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
NO, students need to be taught in the traditional sense using paper charts. Their check rides and most interview will be based off using paper. Teach them old school first and then expose them to GPS, and EFB's etc.
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Short of not using a plotter what is the difference? Charts are charts regardless of how they are depicted?
 
Codyjp said:
Short of not using a plotter what is the difference? Charts are charts regardless of how they are depicted?
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I can guarantee the DE is going to fail it at some point during the flight. E-charts are a crutch IMO especially when they are GPS aided. You don't need to know how to find your position. A critical skill for newbies to learn. You also need to learn SA which moving maps etc detroy or become a crutch.

Try having a student find his position on the e-chart using 2 VORs. Much easier to write on paper and x marks the spot.

As you can tell I am not a big fan of technology in the begining of training. The best thing my CFII did was pull out the GPS card for my training. I didn't get it back to much later in my training. I have seen these gadgets quickly become crutches for some students.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
I can guarantee the DE is going to fail it at some point during the flight. E-charts are a crutch IMO especially when they are GPS aided. You don't need to know how to find your position. A critical skill for newbies to learn. You also need to learn SA which moving maps etc detroy or become a crutch.

Try having a student find his position on the e-chart using 2 VORs. Much easier to write on paper and x marks the spot.

As you can tell I am not a big fan of technology in the begining of training. The best thing my CFII did was pull out the GPS card for my training. I didn't get it back to much later in my training. I have seen these gadgets quickly become crutches for some students.
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Good points. I wasn't even thinking about that. I was thinking about IFR approach plates. I do agree that it would be a bit of a headache for VFR business.
 
Codyjp said:
Good points. I wasn't even thinking about that. I was thinking about IFR approach plates. I do agree that it would be a bit of a headache for VFR business.
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Again use paper here to teach SA and procedures then expose them to gadgets that reduce the work load.
 
LOGS said:
Hmm does foreflight only cover the US or do they have charts for around the world? Also is it still hard to pick up an ipad stateside or has the hype slowed down? Might need to pick one up during my vacation.

=Jason-
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I recently bought an Ipad and i can honestly say that its still pretty tough to pick one up here in the States, i had to reserve one and it took about a week for it to come in.

I can honestly say that its awesome though with Foreflight and i cant wait to do a lot of flight planning with it!
:rawk:
 
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