Bad UPS News: Furloughs begin
- Thread starter derg
- Start date
CoffeeIcePapers
Well-Hung Member
Ouch. That sucks. I thought I read a while back the company is doing really well.
flyingmaniac
Well-Known Member
After reading that article, it makes me hate management even more.
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous. Things are slowly improving and most people say that UPS and Fedex usually recover slightly before everyone else. Sounds like the furloughs are being used as a tool to beat the pilots down.
Patrick
Well-Known Member
It'd be one thing if they declined the voluntary measures to cut costs for management, but if they just saved management $90 million in costs through these voluntary measures, assuming $250k per pilot, that's only $75 million in added labor costs to keep them around. Still leaves an extra $15 million for management to play with, so shame on them.
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
Yeah, it sounds like management is saying "well, lets see what else we can get out of them"
flyingmaniac
Well-Known Member
I always thought that pilots were the ones making the money moving cargo around? Management is just there to manage the money (in some sick way), right?
The more pilots they loose, the less money they make.
Wonder how many pilots are on reserve, or if there is a reserve at UPS.
The more pilots they loose, the less money they make.
Wonder how many pilots are on reserve, or if there is a reserve at UPS.
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
I know they parked the DC-8s, what's the other type they parked?
Polar742
All the responsibility none of the authority
727s. Couple to that the 5 year stop in attrition.
And a very significant percentage of their pilots sit reserve.
And everyone forgets that UPS is a shipping company that operates planes, it's not an airline.
ORDFlyer85
Well-Known Member
It's too bad that DHL in the US broke up.
UPS could surely have used the 1 billion dollars per year that DHL was gonna pay UPS to haul all its Air packages ...
UPS could surely have used the 1 billion dollars per year that DHL was gonna pay UPS to haul all its Air packages ...
It's too bad that DHL in the US broke up.
UPS could surely have used the 1 billion dollars per year that DHL was gonna pay UPS to haul all its Air packages ...
Because the ASTAR and ABX pilots didn't need jobs.
flyTotheSky
Well-Known Member
The sad thing is that those furloughed are obviously very junior and are no where near making $250k....try $65k. Meanwhile UPS is having a record year in gains!!!!:wtf?:
And the topper is a lot of these guys/gals have just moved up their families to ANC only to be furloughed a year later with no re-location assistance back state-side. Slap in the face...great job UPS :clap:
ORDFlyer85
Well-Known Member
No I agree, it wasn't a good situation for them either, but when DHL went under here they still cut pilots ...
Polar742
All the responsibility none of the authority
My friend who is about 180 off the bottom of the list made way more than 65k. He doesn't work any off days either.
It still sucks that he's looking down the barrel. I'm glad he's a responsible guy and he'll be OK, but UPS could have done a little better planning on their part.
The pilots chipped in and still got screwed. It sucks.
Polar742
All the responsibility none of the authority
You do know DHL still has a US network, they're just not trying to run UPS and FDX out of business, right?
spasekace
WHOligan
:yeahthat:could not agree with you more. More profit at any cost.
ORDFlyer85
Well-Known Member
Oh yes, I know that, but now they are focusing on the International Shipments, what they always did best, I was just saying that the network is much smaller than it use to be.
