Getting in
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I don't think it was "offensive," it just didn't have anything to do with the subject at hand. If you'd like to talk about your dissatisfaction with the military, why not start a thread about it? One of the admins here is a former AF O-4 who speaks candidly about his dissatisfaction with the military. Nothing wrong with it at all - it's educational for those who might want to join to see different viewpoints.
Lefty
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Lefty
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All I could see from the main page was the threat title and I completely thought this would be about something else.
Bait and switch! Sheesh...
-mini
I know man! I was duped too.
Firebird2XC
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Good question.
The U.S. Military exists to defend democracy, not to practice it.
Service members- who are all volunteers- readily and willingly accept certain obligations in order to become a part of an organization that absolutely requires putting the common cause and the greater good ahead of the goals and sometimes needs of the individual.
Why do they do that? Because of the opportunity the experience entails, and therein, to perpetuate a society in which opportunity to be free to choose exists at all.
challenger
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:laff::laff::laff::clap::beer:
Exactly, I have personal issues with what is currently going on for Washington, but it does not make me not want to serve my country.
Blackhawk
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No, the US Military exists to support and defend the Constitution of the United States which established a democratic republic, not a democracy.
frog_flyer
FredFlyer
I've found that the "Just the tip, just for a second, just to see how it feels" routine works pretty well.
mhcasey
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That routine would work well for someone without much beyond the tip to offer...
Firebird2XC
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Semantics, and in the intent that I used the word, essentially the same.
On a more technically precise level, you are correct, and I concede the point to that end.
Either way, the U.S. Military exists to preserve the right for Americans to collectively exercise the right to choose how they will govern themselves.
Blackhawk
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Much more than semantics. Democracies can, and have become tyrannical- the tyranny of the majority. Also, the democratic process has been used in history to eviscerate constitutions. The founders were terrified of this happening and it is only through the luck of having the right people at the right time that our country avoided this at its founding. It would have been fairly easy for George Washington to have assumed absolute power had he desired to do so.
In recent history we can look at what recently happened in Honduras where the president attempted to use the democratic process to institute Venezuelan type reforms, such as eliminating term limits. This is why the military oath is not to a specific office (such as the president) but to a document, the Constitution.
Of course one irony is that you will find few officers who have actually read the document they pledge to defend.
JPilot9
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I've done this as a single father and know for fact a Single parent doesn't have a problem joining the Air Force, PROVIDED they can prove they have a support system in place willing to take care of the child if and when they are deployed. All I needed to do was have my parents sign a notorized document stating they understood I could be sent on extended duty assignments on short notice that could possibly cause the loss of life and that they understood this and they were willing accepting full responsibility for the care of my child so I could pursue a career in the Air Force.
In my case I was able to have either or both set of grand parents sign the support document, it was also stated in the document that as the supporters of my child while deployed the grand parents would have access to on base medical for my son and would be granted access to the commissary and exchange with proper id and documentation to shop for my son as needed. My parents didn't need the exchange privilege document since my father was retired military, but they did use medical services for my son a couple times while I was flying, so the required releases needed for them to authorize any medical procedures for my son had to be in place long before any type of deployments occurred, in fact they were signed and notarized prior to being accepted into the Air Force.
In my case I was able to have either or both set of grand parents sign the support document, it was also stated in the document that as the supporters of my child while deployed the grand parents would have access to on base medical for my son and would be granted access to the commissary and exchange with proper id and documentation to shop for my son as needed. My parents didn't need the exchange privilege document since my father was retired military, but they did use medical services for my son a couple times while I was flying, so the required releases needed for them to authorize any medical procedures for my son had to be in place long before any type of deployments occurred, in fact they were signed and notarized prior to being accepted into the Air Force.