United Seniority List.... Help please

CaptBill

CaptBill

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Anybody know where to find a current copy of the United Pilot Seniority List? It's time to start doing homework.:rolleyes:
 
Talk to Seggy, he may have 'special access' to that repository.
 
There is a merged list that is a straight ratio of all pilots, and one that is all active pilots that was on one of the other forums that I found. I'd upload it, but it's too large for the limit that Doug set.

Doug, if I send it to you, can you bypass your own beast?
 
How the heck are there guys on there with birth dates in the '30s? They are in their seventies. :confused:
 
Minuteman said:
How the heck are there guys on there with birth dates in the '30s? They are in their seventies. :confused:
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Could be sim instructors or management pilots. Some airlines require them to be on the seniority list, but they don't actively fly the line. They may still do part 91 flights, though.
 
Looking at the United side of the house, you can really see how age 65 tossed a lock on things. I got into the top 500 guys, and most of those guys would be retired right now if it was still 60.
 
Can someone explan relative seniority? And how this seniority list was able to be made so easily? The way I understand it is, if you are able to hold a seat and equipment now, you should still be able to hold it after integration.
 
Very interesting numbers. The high number of furloughed guys at UA really shake things up. Based on DOH, current percentages and a few other things it appears I would fall in the high 30 percentage range on the merged list but we all know that the final list could, and likely will, be quite different than this example. Let the games begin. :rolleyes:
 
v1valarob said:
Can someone explan relative seniority? And how this seniority list was able to be made so easily? The way I understand it is, if you are able to hold a seat and equipment now, you should still be able to hold it after integration.
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That's pretty much it.

That's more or less what we got at Southernjets/Lake Wobegon Air.
 
from my understanding all that that list did was take a straight ratio top to bottom. ie if you were 41.26% on the old list, this one pits you at 41.26% on the new list. We all know that it wont be nearly that simple, but its a rough trow of the dart.

What will be real interesting is how the 147 CAL furloughs get integrated with the ~1470 UAL furloughs. CAL is flying short right now pretty bad. plus there are 2 777s coming as soon as they get seats for them. The 147 could easily be back before the DOJ signs off on the merger.
 
Interesting discussion yesterday with my FO. While enroute from Newark to Bogota we had lots of time to talk. He is previous ExpressJet and came to CAL in 97 or 98. He got in on the hiring frenzy 3 yrs ago and actually held captain here for 7 months. He was pushed back to the right seat last year and remarked that most of the furloughed guys at UA are senior to him based on D.O.H. He is hoping that CAL with post another bid or two before the lists are finalized hoping to get a bottom captain bid somewhere. He is also looking to go to the 757/767 for the type rating in case he falls victim to getting furloughed as a result of combining the lists. It certainly makes for unsettling times for the pilots on both lists. I am not sure of the precedent for being a junior captain for one airline and going ahead of a senior FO from another airline. It might work in the early stages when fences are in place, but after that, I would think seat protection would be out the window? I have a lot to study up on I think....
 
calcapt said:
Interesting discussion yesterday with my FO. While enroute from Newark to Bogota we had lots of time to talk. He is previous ExpressJet and came to CAL in 97 or 98. He got in on the hiring frenzy 3 yrs ago and actually held captain here for 7 months. He was pushed back to the right seat last year and remarked that most of the furloughed guys at UA are senior to him based on D.O.H. He is hoping that CAL with post another bid or two before the lists are finalized hoping to get a bottom captain bid somewhere. He is also looking to go to the 757/767 for the type rating in case he falls victim to getting furloughed as a result of combining the lists. It certainly makes for unsettling times for the pilots on both lists. I am not sure of the precedent for being a junior captain for one airline and going ahead of a senior FO from another airline. It might work in the early stages when fences are in place, but after that, I would think seat protection would be out the window? I have a lot to study up on I think....
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Wouldn't you like to come work with me, and not have to worry about this crap anymore?

You'd be living in TUS too, with all the perks that come with that....:)
 
MikeD said:
Wouldn't you like to come work with me, and not have to worry about this crap anymore?

You'd be living in TUS too, with all the perks that come with that....:)
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Good point, send me a resume. By the way, I don't know how to fly helicopters. :rolleyes:
 
Snuggle said:
I used to fly with that guy on the 1900.

Yeah, the age diff between the 2 airlines is apparent at the bottom of their lists.
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Quite a few Colgan guys went to CAL during the boom I believe.
 
MikeD said:
Wouldn't you like to come work with me, and not have to worry about this crap anymore?

You'd be living in TUS too, with all the perks that come with that....:)
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DON'T FORGET THE GUYS YOUR SHOP ALREADY OFFERED JOBS TO:)!


Evidently the '08 offers are starting to get called, so I'll probably spend another year in the pool, should they not drain it!
 
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