CNN Story on EAS routes - Free Flights to Meet Quotas

v1valarob

v1valarob

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Very strange to be "chillin' at the holiday innnnn" bridgeport, laying in bed, surfin the internet, to see a story on CNN thats main focus is right where you currently are....

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2010/04/19/griffin.faa.plane.game.cnn

I had heard the rumor that Clarksburg brought in a 757 to boost up its numbers, but didnt think it was true.

And the King Air shown in Altoona, PA with PAX, I have seen that same plane picking up people and doing a few laps around the pattern.

Its also not true that every flight from Clarksburg has to go through Morgantown. The normal 3 flights a day go either IAD-MGW-CKB-IAD or IAD-CKB-MGW-IAD. Its in the contract that each city must have a certain amount of direct flights. Same goes with JST and AOO.
 
We're picking up CKB next month outta somewhere. I THINK it's CVG. We all know PSA goes there to CLT or one of the other US Airways cities. I also think XJ goes there with a Saab out of DTW.

Serious fact checking fail. Three commercial flights, yet the board they showed was more than that. They must have forgotten the OTHER airline counters. Oh, and the Bombardier MX facility on the airport. Heck, I'm not even done with the airport management class I'm taking, and I can see how all the funding they get is legal. Some of it has absolutely nothing to do with EAS. That goes to the AIRLINES, not the airport.
 
kellwolf said:
We're picking up CKB next month outta somewhere. I THINK it's CVG. We all know PSA goes there to CLT or one of the other US Airways cities. I also think XJ goes there with a Saab out of DTW.

Serious fact checking fail. Three commercial flights, yet the board they showed was more than that. They must have forgotten the OTHER airline counters. Oh, and the Bombardier MX facility on the airport. Heck, I'm not even done with the airport management class I'm taking, and I can see how all the funding they get is legal. Some of it has absolutely nothing to do with EAS. That goes to the AIRLINES, not the airport.
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CKB is an EAS route only done by United operated by Colgan Air.

No one else operates a revenue flight into CKB. The RJs that fly into CKB are only for MX at the bombardier facility.
 
v1valarob said:
CKB is an EAS route only done by United operated by Colgan Air.

No one else operates a revenue flight into CKB. The RJs that fly into CKB are only for MX at the bombardier facility.
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Temporary insanity. I got it confused with CRW. Regardless, the operations in and out of the airport to the Bombardier facility alone would be enough to get the airport money the story was talking about. If they'd actually interviewed someone from the airport authority, they might have learned that. Instead, they decided to wander through the terminal with a camera and interview passengers on a charter flight.....
 
kellwolf said:
We're picking up CKB next month outta somewhere. I THINK it's CVG. We all know PSA goes there to CLT or one of the other US Airways cities. I also think XJ goes there with a Saab out of DTW.

Serious fact checking fail. Three commercial flights, yet the board they showed was more than that. They must have forgotten the OTHER airline counters. Oh, and the Bombardier MX facility on the airport. Heck, I'm not even done with the airport management class I'm taking, and I can see how all the funding they get is legal. Some of it has absolutely nothing to do with EAS. That goes to the AIRLINES, not the airport.
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CKB or CRW? :cool:

Edit: Nevermind... you figured it out!:D
 
I can't say I disagree with the fact that the airport is doing everything in their power to get more federal funding. As a pilot, I'm all for investing money into our airport infrastructure.


I just wish the amount of money an airport received was also based upon the amount of traffic, and not just the amount of passengers.
 
kellwolf said:
We're picking up CRW next month outta somewhere. I THINK it's CVG. We all know PSA goes there to CLT or one of the other US Airways cities. I also think XJ goes there with a Saab out of DTW.
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Went to CRW this morning out of DTW. Looks like that might now be a CRJ rather than the Saab.
 
v1valarob said:
The normal 3 flights a day go either IAD-MGW-CKB-IAD or IAD-CKB-MGW-IAD. Its in the contract that each city must have a certain amount of direct flights. Same goes with JST and AOO.
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Where the heck are all these places? How am I supposed to know where AOO is? I thought that was a sound people make when there confused
 
v1valarob said:
I had heard the rumor that Clarksburg brought in a 757 to boost up its numbers, but didnt think it was true.
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The 757 was probably a football charter for WVU or whomever they were playing.


kellwolf said:
We're picking up CKB next month outta somewhere. I THINK it's CVG. We all know PSA goes there to CLT or one of the other US Airways cities. I also think XJ goes there with a Saab out of DTW.
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Seeing as you were talking about CRW... they have really picked up service as of late.

Airways does CLT (with PSA) and DCA (with CJ or sometimes PDT). Delta is doing a bunch of stuff in there. Eagle just restarted service (DFW and ORD I think), ExpressJet is in and out for CAL and United does IAD and I think ORD as well. Also, Airtran has a few flights a day now and Allegiant comes in on weekends. It's getting pretty busy in there.
 
aerospacepilot said:
I can't say I disagree with the fact that the airport is doing everything in their power to get more federal funding. As a pilot, I'm all for investing money into our airport infrastructure.


I just wish the amount of money an airport received was also based upon the amount of traffic, and not just the amount of passengers.
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Actually, there ARE some funding projects that are based on airport operations rather than passengers. The story conveniently skipped a lot of the other methods of funding and focused on one.
 
Hey Guys,

I used to fly EAS out in the midwest. Flew HON-MKE-BKX-MSP, and usually got to MSP with three (3) people although empty was not uncommon (the 2 weeks of pheasant season was full, FWIW).

The highlight of my day was when the HON airport manager would come over and tell me how low he held us in regard, and that the North Central Convairs were a much better operation.

Oh, yea, and the creepy policy car that would follow me, every morning, from my hovel in HON to the airport at 3:55am. Every morning. Every, freekin' morning.

OTOH, we also did OMA-LNK-GRI-LBF-BFF, which was semi-useful, because driving OMA-BFF = teh suck for sure unless you liked counting corn, racing trains, dodging tractors/farm animals or eating at Taco John's.

Richman
 
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