Easiest way to get out of LA Airspace.

ozziecat35

ozziecat35

4 out of 5 great lakes prefer Michigan.
So in 2 weeks I'm helping a friend take delivery of his "new" airplane. He is in the process of buying a C152 with some nice bells and whistles. (IFR, Long Range tanks, Sparrowhawk conversion) The pre-buy is being done @ Inyokern, CA (KIYK) and he wants to visit his family here in Phoenix before he takes it back home to Missoula, MT. Looking over the chart, we can't head directly East due to the R-2515 airspace East of Edwards. I can't file a TEC / IFR route as I'm not current (I'm Rated, my friend is not rated)
I've only flown through LA once while on my IFR long cross country, so I was on an IFR plan the whole time, I'm guessing VFR though LA is much harder to deal with....

Any suggestions?
 
You can snake through the Owen's Valley. There is a small hole in the airspace between China Lake and the west side of the valley at the mouth of it, near IYK. KLB used to fly the run from Burbank up to Mammouth and could tell you more about it, but if I remember correctly you need to stay between the road and the mountain, which is a bit of a tight squeeze, but certainly doable.

Now the turbulence you'll hit in the valley is another thing...
 
jtrain609 said:
You can snake through the Owen's Valley. There is a small hole in the airspace between China Lake and the west side of the valley at the mouth of it, near IYK. KLB used to fly the run from Burbank up to Mammouth and could tell you more about it, but if I remember correctly you need to stay between the road and the mountain, which is a bit of a tight squeeze, but certainly doable.

Now the turbulence you'll hit in the valley is another thing...
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It's been ages since I've done it! I haven't flown VFR anywhere in well over 2.5 years now.:D I'll see can a find a sectional of the area though.
 
KLB said:
It's been ages since I've done it! I haven't flown VFR anywhere in well over 2.5 years now.:D I'll see can a find a sectional of the area though.
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really? No VFR? man, down here in OAK, if you dont go VFR when its even marginal, KC gets antsy and wants to know why you did go VFR! lol
 
Why do you need to go through LA? Looking at the sectional, it appears you can just go south to PMD, then kick left to Phoenix. You don't go within 50 miles of LA airspace. Nothing out there but Joshua Approach and cacti.
 
That's a good point, I forgot to mention my friend wants to go to VNY for the hell of it.....:rolleyes: (The whole 16R thing I guess)
 
ozziecat35 said:
That's a good point, I forgot to mention my friend wants to go to VNY for the hell of it.....:rolleyes: (The whole 16R thing I guess)
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shouldnt be a a problem. Its pretty easy to get into VNY from the north and then depart eastbound without dealing with any Class B. Just get flight following and youre set.
 
SIUav8er said:
really? No VFR? man, down here in OAK, if you dont go VFR when its even marginal, KC gets antsy and wants to know why you did go VFR! lol
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Well we typically don't fly the metro VFR.:) (I've never flown the metro VFR). The last run that I did VFR was most likely a chieftan Oakland run back in 2007 ish.
 
SIUav8er said:
shouldnt be a a problem. Its pretty easy to get into VNY from the north and then depart eastbound without dealing with any Class B. Just get flight following and youre set.
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Thanks, I just remember thinking how it would suck to be VFR in the area when I was doing the PSP-SBA leg of my IFR XC.
 
KLB said:
Well we typically don't fly the metro VFR.:) (I've never flown the metro VFR). The last run that I did VFR was most likely a chieftan Oakland run back in 2007 ish.
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really? into SLC, saves some time coming from the north....
 
I flew into VNY a few years back, flew near Victorville and dropped in from the top, what's the whole 16R thing?

Flew direct into HHR, and left via Zamperini.

Alex.
 
Hmmm......

152, long range tanks, two guys, and stuff for a multi-day cross country....

The only way I see that fitting legally is both of you being midgets. And that's a lot of really high terrain you're looking at.

How often are all those restricted areas hot? It seems like it should be that big of a deal to snake yourselves west from IYK.
 
Seems to me that the easiest way out of LA would be to the West. From what I recall there aren't any mountains or airspace out that way.
 
Very simple. Van Nuys direct the Banning Pass at 5500. Stay north of Ontario. SoCal approach is the best, you'll want flight following past Palm Springs.

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I'm gonna say avoid option number 2, at least at that crossing point. If you're going to go up into the desert in a loaded up Cessna 152, then I'd do it by going direct to Palmdale and then snaking across the north side of the mountains. I'd do this because that's the lowest part of the mountains.
 
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