staplegun
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Seriously, won't this be a checklist item? Are you really complaining about something that will be covered by a checklist?
Kevin
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Seriously, won't this be a checklist item? Are you really complaining about something that will be covered by a checklist?
Kevin
Take a look at the photo in this thread, and you'll see the message for pitot heat off:
http://forums.jetcareers.com/technical-talk/103944-g1000-whats-wrong-picture.html
Granted, it's not a Cessna, but while I haven't flown a G1000 Cessna in a while, I recall there being a similar message.
AngelFuree
Well-Known Member
Alright, so if it's removing ice from the pitot tube, you're telling me it's 'anti-icing' the tube only because the main intent of having pitot heat is to prevent ice? :insane: You said it yourself: removal is de-ice. You're arguing semantics.
gotWXdagain
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That defiintely doesn't show up on the Cessnas.
400A
New Member
Alright, so if it's removing ice from the pitot tube, you're telling me it's 'anti-icing' the tube only because the main intent of having pitot heat is to prevent ice? :insane: You said it yourself: removal is de-ice. You're arguing semantics.
You really don't understand the difference between anti ice and de ice?
Pitot heat isn't meant to REMOVE ice, it is meant to prevent it from forming in the first place. Yes, it can remove certain amounts of ice if ice were to build up with the heat off, but that isn't very smart to wait until you get an airspeed malfunction to turn the pitot heat on.
It isn't semantics, it is definitions and proper use of aircraft systems.
AngelFuree
Well-Known Member
Right, well, no one here said pitot heat was to be used differently. However, pitot heat CAN remove traces of ice, and we call that 'de-ice', chief. There's no other term for it.
I can't wait for the first lawsuit when a student preflighting a quick-turn with a piping-hot pitot tube decides that feeling it with his mouth is a good idea. Thank you to students from a certain airline from the world's most populous country for making me redefine my definition of aeronautical stupidity.
gotWXdagain
Polished Member
What does Air China and sucking a pitot tube have anything to do with each other? Furthermore, where do you get the idea that someone would suck a pitot tube?
TXaviator
Well-Known Member
i thought the proper method to check a cessna stall warning horn was to suck on it?
400A
New Member
TXaviator
Well-Known Member
Pitot tube and a stall warning (lift detector) are two different things.
right i understand that... just saying, i knew there was some sucking involved with cessnas
(get it?)
400A
New Member
Anything, other than a Dash8, with the wings on top sucks.
gotWXdagain
Polished Member
How that would transfer to sucking on the pitot tube, I am not sure.
I think some students like sucking on Cessna's long smooth pitot tubes :rotfl:
Pilotwannabe1123
New Member
:rotfl:
Pitot heat on the moment the student is cleared for takeoff is pointless. From that moment how long until the airplane lifts the ground? 15-20 seconds? Most planes here when we turn on the pitot heat, it takes a good 30 sec to a minute to feel any warmth in the tube during preflight..in cold weather... so yeah if it takes that long, good luck melting any ice during the roll.
gotWXdagain
Polished Member
If you have ice on the roll to begin with, taking off is probably not the smartest course of action.
FlyMan07
New Member
Please read:
oktex88 said:
Do you really think the pilots were able to see the moisture in the system? The ice wasn't covering the mast.
gotWXdagain
Polished Member
I'm willing to bet those were both IFR takeoffs and it was very cold outside.