So I found out from a buddy we now have to have pitot heat on for all flight operations, IFR in and out of clouds, VFR, day or night it don't matter, winter -20 or 90 degree HOT summer days. UND's reasoning..."because the airlines and other jets do it" I also guess it was because someone was flying in the clouds without out it on and got ice......really?
UND now a step closer to "an actual airline"
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juxtapilot
Snowflake
:rotfl: Oh UND you're a goofball.
juxtapilot
Snowflake
Ouch... expensive...
Blip16
Well-Known Member
how so? The hid bulbs last longer than halogen, can't tell you the last time I mel'd a landing light
ScoutFlyer
Well-Known Member
I actually don't have much of a complaint about it. I actually think it's a good idea in the Pipers...gets that darn Pitot Heat Inop/Off Annunciator to quit blaring in my face.
gotWXdagain
Polished Member
Who cares? Is it really that difficult for you people to flip a switch on takeoff and then again on landing? If UND wants to burn out all their pitot tubes, let them. Same with the changes in lighting, who cares? There's times when UND does things I don't agree with but some of you people are fishing for reasons to bitch.
juxtapilot
Snowflake
I forgot they're using hid bulbs... they're more expensive, but you're right. They last a pretty long time. :dunno:
BIGRIG
Well-Known Member
Amen. Who cares? Not me.
roundout
VNAV monitor
The students will ALL care when planes start going down for mx and scheduling becomes a problem.
gotWXdagain
Polished Member
Two things: Firstly, you're right, not all students want the airline career route (Myself included although I'm open to all options), but the fact is, most of the students who come to UND and have come through UND in the 40 years of its operations seeking a degree in commercial aviation have wanted to go the airline route, so UND has tailored their training to that set. What if they trained the set of people that wanted the part 91 corporate world? the 135 freight dawgs? do you think they would be the same school today? absolutely not. Bottom line is that you have to understand from the get-go that you are being trained to the airline pilot standard. Frankly, if you don't realize this coming into UND, you didn't do your homework.
Secondly as to the pitot heat failure issue. Who can show me in the P.O.H. any limitation on the use of pitot heat in flight?
juxtapilot
Snowflake
I don't think it's so much an issue of using it in flight as it is forgetting to turn it off after landing... Go ahead and use it, forget to turn it off, let it burn out, and the person who wants to fly in that plane after you will be sure to thank you.
R
Roger, Roger
Guest
:yeahthat: that was procedure in our Twinstars to get rid of the annunciator on the panel. OP, is that the real reason you were given for the pitot heat? Or are you just making stuff up?
AngelFuree
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gotWXdagain
Polished Member
If you're using the checklist as you're supposed to (I.E. Do then VERIFY) that won't be a problem. Again, mountains out of molehills, folks.
Blip16
Well-Known Member
no, the reason is because "it is industry standard"
400A
New Member
In almost 5000 hours of flying outside of UND, in airplanes that require pitot heat on for all "air ops" I have seen ONE pitot heat inop.
That doesn't mean that any pitot heat can't fail at any time, but if you plan on flying anything bigger than a Baron, both professionally and recreationally, then turning on the pitot heat is not such a bad idea. An ounce of a prevention is worth a pound of cure.
That doesn't mean that any pitot heat can't fail at any time, but if you plan on flying anything bigger than a Baron, both professionally and recreationally, then turning on the pitot heat is not such a bad idea. An ounce of a prevention is worth a pound of cure.