SIC training required

Fly_Unity

Fly_Unity

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My Chief pilot and I are trying to figure out what it would take to train a SIC in a King Air 90. (Our operating certificate allows this) Where can I find in the FAR's the training requirements, and what would a SIC check-ride consist of?

Thanks

Ben
 
there is no SIC checkride. and you dont actually need an SIC type rating to act as SIC.... but you can get one if you want.
 
ntbjounin said:
there is no SIC checkride. and you dont actually need an SIC type rating to act as SIC.... but you can get one if you want.
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To act SIC in the United States. PPL multi is all you need to fly it VFR (even IFR, you can log sole manipulator time w/PPL-AMEL without the instrument rating). You would need an SIC rating in type to fly out of the US. I believe this only involves taking a piece of paper down to the FSDO.

Even in a jet operated for hire (even airline domestic), all you legally need to be SIC is a C-AMEL & instrument, nothing else.
 
OK, So I dont even need a guy to have a 135 checkride?

My problem is, I need someone to have 200 hours in the 90 so he can ACT as PIC, Right now he can only LOG PIC on the 91 legs. Our operating Manual says a SIC may be used in lieu of an Auto pilot. So this SIC does not even need to do a 135 check?
 
As far as I know.. for him to be able to act as a crewmember during 135 legs, he has to have a 135 checkride. Check out 135.293. If no checkride is required what would stop me from having a random commercial-multi rated pax jump up front, take my place, and have a try at a landing or two.
 
vheissu said:
As far as I know.. for him to be able to act as a crewmember during 135 legs, he has to have a 135 checkride. Check out 135.293. If no checkride is required what would stop me from having a random commercial-multi rated pax jump up front, take my place, and have a try at a landing or two.
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The OP didn't say it was part 135, I guess I was assuming it is part 91.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
The OP didn't say it was part 135, I guess I was assuming it is part 91.
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SIC is not Authorized Part 91.

Just wondering what the 135 SIC checkride would consist of if anybody has ever done one. Is it a full blown checkride? 135.293 does not seem to make a difference between PIC and SIC.

This pilot is also our 135 pilot on our different pistons, so maybe it would be more of a transition training than a Initial training if that makes any difference?
 
When I was acting as SIC for a 135 company we needed to complete a 135.293 check (same as the PIC check). We did not need to do the 135.297 check, but the company made us complete the 61.57 check to stay current.
 
Additional Info:

Link to 8900

reference 1

reference 2 - excerpt in quote

8900 3-1279 said:
[FONT=&quot]G. [/FONT] SIC Qualification in Aircraft Not Requiring an SIC. The basic qualification module for an SIC in any operation (VFR or IFR) for which no SIC is required by regulation is either an instrument proficiency or VFR competency check in any aircraft of the same category and class and the written or oral test required by § 135.293(a)(2) for the type of aircraft involved.
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You are going to have to write and submit a training program to the FAA, upon approval train said pilot, and get him or her a .293 checkride.
 
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