JFK Terminal Evacuated

:banghead::banghead:

How many people does that area hold? I didn't see a number mentioned in the article.

I should just quit the pilot thing and go to work for the TSA. Screwup, inefficient, but that's ok!. Imagine the job stability!
 
That's funny. I more or less lived in Terminal 5 in JFK for a month, and someone would set off a door alarm about every half hour. Nobody'd blink an eye. That was back in the good ol' days, in September, before we had to look out for terrorists. It's very important to be vigilant for terrorism these days, you see, and you'll often see a terrorist sneaking into the baggage area for their activities. Remember how it went for John McClane in Die Hard 2?
 
Rosstafari said:
That's funny. I more or less lived in Terminal 5 in JFK for a month, and someone would set off a door alarm about every half hour. Nobody'd blink an eye. That was back in the good ol' days, in September, before we had to look out for terrorists. It's very important to be vigilant for terrorism these days, you see, and you'll often see a terrorist sneaking into the baggage area for their activities. Remember how it went for John McClane in Die Hard 2?
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But you know, the problem is that if you say "terrorist" five times fast, it sounds like "tourist" and logic gets all fuzzy and cattywumpus.

"We have to stop the terrorists!"
"Yeaaaaah!"
"Terrorists!"
"Tourists! Yeah! Stop the tourists!"
 
TSA and security is such a joke.

I remember one time when I spotted a guy in street clothes and no ID just walk out to an empty RJ and hop in the cargo old whle my flight was boarding. I called ops and and then ramp and it was like pulling teeth to get a cop over there. When they did show up it turns out the guy was legit and had his ID in his pocket and security wasn't too happy I disturbed their coffee break. (and this was major DC area airport).
 
TSA is not security. It's the illusion of security. It's been said before. The TSA is nothing but a feel good, eye candy setup.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
TSA and security is such a joke.

I remember one time when I spotted a guy in street clothes and no ID just walk out to an empty RJ and hop in the cargo old whle my flight was boarding. I called ops and and then ramp and it was like pulling teeth to get a cop over there. When they did show up it turns out the guy was legit and had his ID in his pocket and security wasn't too happy I disturbed their coffee break. (and this was major DC area airport).
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They make such a big deal about the badge-on-the-ramp stuff too. You'd think they would have been all excited to catch someone.
 
Doug Taylor said:
"We have to stop the terrorists!"
"Yeaaaaah!"
"Terrorists!"
"Tourists! Yeah! Stop the tourists!"
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LOL!

Reminds me of a line from Caddyshack!

"I want you to kill every gopher on the golf course!"

"Correct me if I'm wrong Sandy, but if I kill all the golfers, they're gonna lock me up and throw away the key!"

"Not golfers, you great fool! Gophers! The little brown, furry rodents!"

:rotfl:
 
Nick said:
They make such a big deal about the badge-on-the-ramp stuff too. You'd think they would have been all excited to catch someone.
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yeah me too since it was only a couple of years after 9/11. The thing that really made me feel uncomfortable is when the guy appeared not to know how to open and RJ cargo door. Then managed to get it open and hopped inside and didn't appear for several minutes.
 
Rosstafari said:
That's funny. I more or less lived in Terminal 5 in JFK for a month, and someone would set off a door alarm about every half hour. Nobody'd blink an eye. That was back in the good ol' days, in September, before we had to look out for terrorists. It's very important to be vigilant for terrorism these days, you see, and you'll often see a terrorist sneaking into the baggage area for their activities. Remember how it went for John McClane in Die Hard 2?
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Die Hard 2 is on TV now lol.

What a funny movie catch on the overnight.
 
A300Capt said:
LOL!

Reminds me of a line from Caddyshack!

"I want you to kill every gopher on the golf course!"

"Correct me if I'm wrong Sandy, but if I kill all the golfers, they're gonna lock me up and throw away the key!"

"Not golfers, you great fool! Gophers! The little brown, furry rodents!"

:rotfl:
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Thanks for understanding my humor! :) That makes, uhh, lemme check... three of ya!
 
So this fubard AA operation, the EWR deal messed up CAL big time. I say this is some sort of industrial sabotage on the part of DL, or some LCC possibly JetBlue.

Industrial sabotage and espionage is a real deal, and using/blaming security for it is a perfect scapegoat.




/ tin foil hat :D
 
Just wondering guys, when did this become the fault of TSA? It really pains me that anytime the word security breach is mentioned to the public, it's automatically the fault of TSA. All it was a security breach; not a Transportation Security Administration Security Breach. If I'm not mistaken, the guy came in from Orlando and was trying to leave the terminal; but tried to exit through a door that's only for airport personnel. Is this is breach...yes; but not the fault of TSA. The question to be asked is where was the contract security company who's suppose to be manning those kind of doors? Also why was the guy even able to open the door in the first place? I've been in plenty of terminal that you either need to enter a code or use swipe access to open the door; and if you have neither that door is never going to open. The only involvement that TSA has is along with PA in regards to dumping the terminal; and that's usually the last straw. TSA doesn't man those doors; they're sole purpose is the checkpoint, they are manned by a separate security company. So please explain to me guys how is this the fault of TSA? I don't want to sound like I'm standing up for TSA because they are my employer; but I was just wondering because I was telling myself watch TSA get blamed for this....and surely it's happening.
 
kmiller said:
Just wondering guys, when did this become the fault of TSA? It really pains me that anytime the word security breach is mentioned to the public, it's automatically the fault of TSA. All it was a security breach; not a Transportation Security Administration Security Breach. If I'm not mistaken, the guy came in from Orlando and was trying to leave the terminal; but tried to exit through a door that's only for airport personnel. Is this is breach...yes; but not the fault of TSA. The question to be asked is where was the contract security company who's suppose to be manning those kind of doors? Also why was the guy even able to open the door in the first place? I've been in plenty of terminal that you either need to enter a code or use swipe access to open the door; and if you have neither that door is never going to open. The only involvement that TSA has is along with PA in regards to dumping the terminal; and that's usually the last straw. TSA doesn't man those doors; they're sole purpose is the checkpoint, they are manned by a separate security company. So please explain to me guys how is this the fault of TSA? I don't want to sound like I'm standing up for TSA because they are my employer; but I was just wondering because I was telling myself watch TSA get blamed for this....and surely it's happening.
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Was it the TSA's call to evacuate the whole terminal? If it is then that's one of the points the other JC members are arguing.
 
kmiller said:
Just wondering guys, when did this become the fault of TSA? It really pains me that anytime the word security breach is mentioned to the public, it's automatically the fault of TSA. All it was a security breach; not a Transportation Security Administration Security Breach. If I'm not mistaken, the guy came in from Orlando and was trying to leave the terminal; but tried to exit through a door that's only for airport personnel. Is this is breach...yes; but not the fault of TSA. The question to be asked is where was the contract security company who's suppose to be manning those kind of doors? Also why was the guy even able to open the door in the first place? I've been in plenty of terminal that you either need to enter a code or use swipe access to open the door; and if you have neither that door is never going to open. The only involvement that TSA has is along with PA in regards to dumping the terminal; and that's usually the last straw. TSA doesn't man those doors; they're sole purpose is the checkpoint, they are manned by a separate security company. So please explain to me guys how is this the fault of TSA? I don't want to sound like I'm standing up for TSA because they are my employer; but I was just wondering because I was telling myself watch TSA get blamed for this....and surely it's happening.
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Often the reason for allowing doors that access the ramp to open is that those doors also double as fire exits for the terminal. In the event of a fire in the airport terminal, all those people have to have a way to get out of the building. Better to have them out on the ramp while the building is on fire, than have them die because they couldn't get out of the building.

How it usually works, is when the handle to open the door is pushed without entering whatever code or swiping a badge or whatever an alarm will go off, then after 15-30 seconds the door will release.
 
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