Line up and wait

[twotwowoo]

According to this article, the FAA will be changing "position and hold" to the ICAO standard of "line up and wait." I assume it's so foreign pilots don't get confused at our terminology. Personally, I think it sounds ridiculous. "Line up and wait" sounds more like the ATC hiring process than anything to do with flying. Are we really the only country that says "position and hold?"

 

[Roger, Roger]

Why do WE have to change?

We INVENTED the gorram airplane.

Slight

 

[Bernoulli Fan]

I don't measure in centimeters and I won't say "line up and wait." They're gonna get a "position and hold" from me on the readback. If they persist I'll just hold short. :bandit:

 

[CRJDriver]

"Ahh.. Position and aahh hold...ahh Runway zero fo left... Air china ahh 86 heavy"

 

[Goonie]

As long as we dont have to learn QFE, QNE, QNH....

blah blah blah

7600

 

[Lima86]

what is the world coming to?:dunno:

 

[Baronguy18]

BOOO.... I agree with the above posts, theyre gettin a "position and hold" back from me.

 

[JordanD]

Why do WE have to change?

We INVENTED the gorram airplane.

Slight

If everyone else learns English because it's the official language of ATC I don't see how learning to say position and hold is a big deal either.

 

[Roger, Roger]

If everyone else learns English because it's the official language of ATC I don't see how learning to say position and hold is a big deal either.

Or in the (paraphrased) words of Michael Bolton, "Why should we change? They're the ones who suck".

 

[MikeD]

first is was my beloved PCA/TCA/ARSA/ATA

then they came after my FT/SA/RS reports

now this......

 

[PA44-LUV]

Doing "line up and wait" for same reason we have SIC Type Ratings, because we gave in. Line up and wait just sounds so, *can't think of a good descriptive word to put here*

 

[TXaviator]

Doing "line up and wait" for same reason we have SIC Type Ratings, because we gave in. Line up and wait just sounds so, *can't think of a good descriptive word to put here*

casual? informal? lackadaisical?

 

[CRJDriver]

Doing "line up and wait" for same reason we have SIC Type Ratings, because we gave in. Line up and wait just sounds so, *can't think of a good descriptive word to put here*

LOL, yup! I don't even call an SIC a Type rating, I call it a training endorsement

 

[PA44-LUV]

casual? informal? lackadaisical?

Yes! I was having a moment with my first post. I wanted to say "unprofessional" but thought that sounded "bland"

 

[gne in prog]

some of you seem pretty sentimental about simple phraseology.

will we also be getting "taxi to holding point runway x" instead of "taxi to runway x and hold short"?

 

[I_Money]

I think it is silly and dangerous - a line in America is a row of items each waiting their turn, so being told to line up and wait as the OP initially said suggests something different. When I flew in the UK I had great problems with this phrase and always had to think before proceeding.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Position and hold is a much more logical phrase...

Never liked "line up and wait" and never will... Kinda like they'll say "say level" when they want you to say your altitude. Derp derp.

 

[Boris Badenov]

Asinine. Position and hold on the readback here, too. There are hours of amusement to be had over on pprune reading the hysterics some of these radio-phraseology hitler youth eurotrash have about US ATC. You'd think a mechanic had spoken to them without permission by the level of histrionics.

I'm told it's especially funny if you've ever experienced the marvel of efficiency that is the EU's ATC.

 

[Douglas]

"Line up and wait" is to "Position and hold" as San Francisco is to Henry Rollins.

Henry wins every time.

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I wouldn't think something like this would make me want to dig my heels in the dirt, but it does.

 

[BajtheJino]

hitler youth eurotrash

Indeed, sir. Indeed.