Twin piston high wing aircraft?

swisspilot said:
Tecnam and Partenavia are two different things, the Partenavia is a model of a company called Vulcanair, Tecnam is an other company. The only thing in common is that they are based in the same city.

there is a third company in Italy that is building a twin piston I just can't remember the name.
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I was told by the Tecnam guys this past fall (at the AOPA expo), that the guy who designed the Partenavia also designed the new Tecnam twin (the P2008T). Its such a sweet airplane. 2 engines, 140 KTAS, 5 GPH/side.
 
Joe Gremlin said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partenavia_P.68

Uses a pair of 200hp lycs. Seems pretty GA to me. I don't think there are many in the states but I sat in one of these at an AOPA Expo many years ago. Kind of like a mini twin otter.

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Also great aircraft for aerobatic performances. ;)
 
Jeremy said:
Are there any GA twin piston high wing aircraft out there? Just curious.

Thanks
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Off the top of my head I think everything's been hit.

BN-2, BN-3, PartenAvia, Tecnam, Grumman mutli-seas etc. Those machines are all kick ass.
 
MikeD said:
It's not. It's more a warning based on a real event. Something people could learn from.
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Found this posted with the video:

NTSB Identification: FTW83FA424 .
The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 21677.
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Sunday, September 11, 1983 in PLAINVIEW, TX
Aircraft: PARTENAVIA P68C, registration: N29561
Injuries: 1 Fatal.

THE PLT WAS EXECUTING A HIGH SPEED PASS OVER THE RWY AT ABOUT 250 FT AGL. THE PLT THEN BEGAN A RAPID PULL-UP & BOTH WINGS SEPARATED JUST OUTBOARD OF THE ENG NACELLES. RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SEQUENCE FROM A VIDEOTAPE REVEALED THAT THE ACFT'S SPEED AT THE TIME OF THE WING SEPARATIONS WAS 220 KTS. VNE FOR THE ACFT IS 193 KTS. IT WAS CALCULATED THAT, AT 220 KTS & AN 8 DEG NOSE-UP PITCH, THE 'G' LOAD AT THE TIME OF THE WING SEPARATIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN 8.3 G'S.
The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:

IN-FLIGHT PLANNING / DECISION.. IMPROPER.. PILOT IN COMMAND
OVERCONFIDENCE IN AIRCRAFT'S ABILITY.. PILOT IN COMMAND
AIRSPEED.. EXCEEDED..PILOT IN COMMAND
WING..OVERLOAD
DESIGN STRESS LIMITS OF AIRCRAFT.. EXCEEDED.. PILOT IN COMMAND

Contributing Factors
WING.. FAILURE, TOTAL
WING.. SEPARATION


Emphasis mine.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
I was told by the Tecnam guys this past fall (at the AOPA expo), that the guy who designed the Partenavia also designed the new Tecnam twin (the P2008T). Its such a sweet airplane. 2 engines, 140 KTAS, 5 GPH/side.
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Kind of slow, but seem pretty roomy. And even though its slow, 140ktas on 10gph ain't bad when you consider you can put it back on a runway if one of those snowmobile engines takes a dump on you. I could see a market for it outside of the training environment is the price was right. Anyone know what the price is?
 
ppragman said:
Found this posted with the video:

NTSB Identification: FTW83FA424 .
The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 21677.
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Sunday, September 11, 1983 in PLAINVIEW, TX
Aircraft: PARTENAVIA P68C, registration: N29561
Injuries: 1 Fatal.

THE PLT WAS EXECUTING A HIGH SPEED PASS OVER THE RWY AT ABOUT 250 FT AGL. THE PLT THEN BEGAN A RAPID PULL-UP & BOTH WINGS SEPARATED JUST OUTBOARD OF THE ENG NACELLES. RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SEQUENCE FROM A VIDEOTAPE REVEALED THAT THE ACFT'S SPEED AT THE TIME OF THE WING SEPARATIONS WAS 220 KTS. VNE FOR THE ACFT IS 193 KTS. IT WAS CALCULATED THAT, AT 220 KTS & AN 8 DEG NOSE-UP PITCH, THE 'G' LOAD AT THE TIME OF THE WING SEPARATIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN 8.3 G'S.
The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:

IN-FLIGHT PLANNING / DECISION.. IMPROPER.. PILOT IN COMMAND
OVERCONFIDENCE IN AIRCRAFT'S ABILITY.. PILOT IN COMMAND
AIRSPEED.. EXCEEDED..PILOT IN COMMAND
WING..OVERLOAD
DESIGN STRESS LIMITS OF AIRCRAFT.. EXCEEDED.. PILOT IN COMMAND

Contributing Factors
WING.. FAILURE, TOTAL
WING.. SEPARATION


Emphasis mine.
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I remember when that happened. Saw it on the local news and was just sickened.

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MikeD said:
It's not. It's more a warning based on a real event. Something people could learn from.
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Agreed. But on the other hand, just about every private pilot on the planet knows its probably a bad idea to take a plane, any plane, past VNE and then pull up hard into a climb. You can tell em' the numbers and you can show em' the NTSB reports. But at the end of the day you can't fix stupid.
 
Joe Gremlin said:
Agreed. But on the other hand, just about every private pilot on the planet knows its probably a bad idea to take a plane, any plane, past VNE and then pull up hard into a climb. You can tell em' the numbers and you can show em' the NTSB reports. But at the end of the day you can't fix stupid.
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Very true. A sad commentary, but true indeed.
 
Joe Gremlin said:
Kind of slow, but seem pretty roomy. And even though its slow, 140ktas on 10gph ain't bad when you consider you can put it back on a runway if one of those snowmobile engines takes a dump on you. I could see a market for it outside of the training environment is the price was right. Anyone know what the price is?
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I believe somewhere around 500K for a fully loaded G1000 (well G950) equipped plane. You can get the with a six pack, HSI and a GNS430 for about 425K, IIRC. It had tons of room when I looked at it, and was in it. Even has a roof escape hatch, so you can get out of it in a hurry if you wanted to.

PS: Its not a snowmobile engine.
 
Thanks guys. I don't know why I couldn't find any of those airplanes anywhere on the internet (besides ones like the C-123).

And yes, I'd love to have a CL-215, but... Yeah... :drool:
 
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