Instrument Rating-Helicopter

Old Pete

Cockpit Authoritarian
I have been asked by someone who has a private pilot helicopter certificate if he can train in a fixed wing aircraft, and have the actual or simulated time count towards his helicopter instrument rating.

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(d) Aeronautical experience. A person who applies for an instrument rating must have logged the following:
(1) At least 50 hours of cross-country flight time as pilot in command, of which at least 10 hours must be in airplanes for an instrument -- airplane rating; and
(2) A total of 40 hours of actual or simulated instrument time on the areas of operation of this section, to include --
(i) At least 15 hours of instrument flight training from an authorized instructor in the aircraft category for which the instrument rating is sought;
The way I read this is that out of a total of 40 hrs 25hrs could be fixed wing time.

(iv) For an instrument -- helicopter rating, instrument training specific to helicopters on cross-country flight procedures that includes at least one cross-country flight in a helicopter that is performed under IFR, and consists of --
(A) A distance of at least 100 nautical miles along airways or ATC-directed routing;
(B) An instrument approach at each airport; and
(C) Three different kinds of approaches with the use of navigation systems;
(e) Use of flight simulators or flight training devices. If the instrument training was provided by an authorized instructor in a flight simulator or flight training device --
(1) A maximum of 30 hours may be performed in that flight simulator or flight training device if the training was accomplished in accordance with part 142 of this chapter; or
(2) A maximum of 20 hours may be performed in that flight simulator or flight training device if the training was not accomplished in accordance with part 142 of this chapter
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Does the FTD have to represent a helicopter or can it represent an airplane?
 
I have been asked by someone who has a private pilot helicopter certificate if he can train in a fixed wing aircraft, and have the actual or simulated time count towards his helicopter instrument rating.

61.65The way I read this is that out of a total of 40 hrs 25hrs could be fixed wing time.

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Does the FTD have to represent a helicopter or can it represent an airplane?

As for the first part you are right, 15 hours must be in the category, the other 25 can be anywhere you want.

As for the flight sim portion I would check with 142 if you plan to do 30 hours but for the 20 hours I would say it doesn't make a difference. If you can use 25 hours airplane time why not do 20 of those 25 in the sim right? Be careful you still me all the required aeronautical experiences in the chopper before he takes the check ride though since that is where it will count of course.
 
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