I Feel Odd, But . . .

anybody who's sick of flying right now..... can i have your job?

Nah, I'm pretty happy. Besides, you wouldn't know what to do in Berlin and Nice, France this weekend... Or fly a 767 so you'd probably wreck the trip for your other pilots! ;)
 
I don't know how y'all fly for an hour, take all of your crap out of the airplane, find food, move into another aircraft, get rerouted and repeat it four or five times with a whopping 10 hour "long" layover. :)
 
I enjoy flying in a C152 flying eight hours a day:sarcasm: Why can't they extend the seats back a couple of inches, my 6ft4 legs are bruised.
 
No luck. Just stayed in the game for long enough to get to that level.

I dunno Doug, I think luck plays a pretty big roll in where somebody ends up.

12 years (I think that's where you're at) would get you a mid level reserve on the 737 at US. And you would have spent 8 of those 12 years on furlough.
 
Not trying to be a contrarian.

It seems like a large part of luck is "being prepared for opportunity".

Skills and smarts are part of being prepared, and the number of opportunities that come along is closely correlated with "networking, networking, networking".

Of course, there is some random element in luck, too.
 
I dunno Doug, I think luck plays a pretty big roll in where somebody ends up.

12 years (I think that's where you're at) would get you a mid level reserve on the 737 at US. And you would have spent 8 of those 12 years on furlough.

I have to agree with Ethan. I'll admit it, I'm lucky to be where I am. Stan and I started on the same day at our respective airlines. If I'd gone to Eagle, I'd still be an FO sweating if I was gonna be able to still hold on to my base if another displacement came through. It was b/w PCL and XJT for me. If I had swung the other direction, I'd be probably a mid-level FO with a several year upgrade ahead of me. I picked PCL b/c I didn't want to commute, and the upgrade just fell in my lap. Now, I still stress over sticking in the left seat in case of another displacement, but that's a LOT better than sweating losing my job altogether. Worst case scenario, I get displaced to ATL FO, I bid #10 in base, let the company pay to move me back to Orlando and I wait it out until I can upgrade again.

If I can hold on to the left seat long enough for the next round of hiring at the majors, I'll call myself REALLY lucky.
 
I don't know how y'all fly for an hour, take all of your crap out of the airplane, find food, move into another aircraft, get rerouted and repeat it four or five times with a whopping 10 hour "long" layover. :)

Well we don't do it by choice, that's for sure.
 
Well we don't do it by choice, that's for sure.

Depends on how you look at it. Technically, I could choose this afternoon "Screw this" and I could be shoveling elephant or giraffe poop by tomorrow afternoon. I guess I'd rather do something I enjoy a bit more and shovel the poop from my company than poop from a 3 ton animal.
 
Taken in context of our flying jobs?

I can't be at Delta now, so for me doing 1 hour legs into bum-f-egypt isn't something I can change right now. Not to mention that when ever the majors do resume hiring I certainly won't be in the next wave, so I'm looking at another 5-7 years or so most likely. How he can sit there and say luck doesn't play a role in his success kind of irritates me. This industry is 99% luck/timing.
 
Well before there's a raging mob with pitchforks and torches at my door, I figure it's like this: I went to Skyway when no one wanted to go to Skyway because all they had were Beech 1900's and billions of tiny bases in small towns. A lot of guys left for bigger regionals but I just stayed primarily because I didn't want to make any lateral moves.

When I got hired by Southernjets, it was *not* the place to be at all. A long career of riding side-saddle in a huge fleet of 727s. Out of a class of 30, at least 5 left for United because they had better bases, larger aircraft and 3 year upgrades to captain and new hires flying 777's and 747's was supposed to be the industry "norm" and there was no way I was going to get that type of advancement staying where I was. Hell, one of my classmates even left for USAir.

Well, there's no luck involved in being prepared for the opportunity when it presents itself, and I had a networking net like a deep Atlantic fish trawler so it was a lot of worn-out shoes, huge telephone bills, and a lot of lunches bought on a CFI's salary.

It looks a lot rosier from the outside, but don't forget that I've been through two massive paycuts, airline bankruptcy and while it looks like a somewhat fashionable place to be today, that wasn't necessarily the case a few years ago and it's unrealistic to think it'll be the fashionable place to be in a few years. Ebb and flow.

I've had a good career thus far looking backwards, but you never know what's just around the corner in this business. I could literally be working at Subway sandwiches telling stories of lore about traveling around the world and having to explain "No, not the faucet company, GEEZ, the airline!!! Haven't you ever heard of it?!" :)

If being prepared for opportunity when it presented itself is considered luck, well, so be it. I think if you look at the whole life/career story, I think you'll see that I had a lot of determination. If you just look at the "good parts" it might look like it just fell in my lap for some.

I consider luck like a waking up one day, driving down the street to the Chevron and someone saying, "Hey! Our G5 captain just quit, come work for us! I assume you're a pilot?" :)
 
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