trafficinsight
Well-Known Member
I.... can't tell if you're joking or not.
That's it, I'm dropping my AOPA membership.
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I.... can't tell if you're joking or not.
LaBeef
New Member
The AOPA isn't bad at all IMO. I signed up for Project Pilot when i first started flying and I think it was a great move, I like their safety quizzes and although I haven't been to a free safety seminar, I'd like to attend one.. Flight training is a great magazine as well.. As far as credit card offers, I used to get a good number of them, but I haven't seen one in a few months though... I'll be glad to renew my membership in November again..
Joe Gremlin
Well-Known Member
Done and done.
darrenf
resident denizen
Perhaps I am wrong, but aren't you looking for the word Biased??
Ramsey
Well-Known Member
Phil who? :laff: Long gone. :laff:
Joe Gremlin
Well-Known Member
Of course you're wrong! Never doubt me ever!Perhaps I am wrong, but aren't you looking for the word Biased??
On second thought, how eff' should I know? I've heard it used both ways so I assumed both were correct. You're probably right. But you're still Mr Smarty Pants for pointing it out. :rawk: BTW, I'm far too many J&C's into Friday night to even know what I'm typing anymore. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. What did you say your name was again? Time for bed me thinks.
darrenf
resident denizen
2 El Presidente Margaritas for me, life is GOOD. :rawk:
And of course I'm right, I'm Mr Know it all!
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See also “prejudice/prejudiced."
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/bias.html
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Joe Gremlin
Well-Known Member
I bow in your honor... For the El Presidente's. As far as the bias/biased thing goes, you can go eff' yourself.2 El Presidente Margaritas for me, life is GOOD. :rawk:
And of course I'm right, I'm Mr Know it all!
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>A person who is influenced by a bias is biased. The expression is not “they’re bias,” but “they’re biased.” Also, many people say someone is “biased toward” something or someone when they mean biased against. To have a bias toward something is to be biased in its favor.
See also “prejudice/prejudiced."
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/bias.html
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Joe Gremlin
Well-Known Member
If you've only got $39 to give, AOPA will do more with it to protect aviation interests than anyone else on the planet could ever hope to. They might not be the most powerful advocate in the world, but they're the best bet we've got.
flyboywbl
3rd regional in 1 year
I agree.
I just think they could spend that money else where and not on personalized subscription forms to Student Pilot Magazine. Thats got to cost a lot more than just sending the forms with out my name on it.
Firebird2XC
Well-Known Member
Really? I totally haven't been paying attention to AOPA.
Good riddance!
LOL now I see why everybody was chuckling.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
If you plan to become an air line pilot, then they're using your 39 bucks against your best interests. AOPA looks out for the rich guys with their VLJs and King Airs at the expense of airlines.
Proud non-member of AOPA since 2002.
Stone Cold
Well-Known Member
And those that plan on avoiding the airlines should look for either AOPA or NBAA to support.
You know, PCL, seriously, AOPA sucks, but to generalize it to support VLJ's and King Airs is disingenuous. The airlines are their own worst enemy, pilots are their own worst enemy, and all of us should find somebody who supports their interest to help fight the government.
Yes, I no longer have an AOPA membership, but it's because of their magazines that support PFT/PFJ/PFRJC/PFwhatever anybody else comes up with to pocket the ad coffers that I don't support them. I am now an NBAA member. They have my best interests in mind. Not the airlines, not the VLJ's alone, but the aspect of aviation I am in.
Everybody should find which group will help their career ambitions, since there is big money, no matter which aspect of aviation you are in. If you plan on staying in, or support the notion of GA, unfortunately AOPA with all the starry-eyed kids wanting the airlines and PFT/PFwhatever will run the bottom line...but it's the best GA has.
PCL, when are you supporting ATA...they have the airlines best interest in mind...you do support them, right?
I'm an AOPA member. I'm in primarily for their legal services plan, but I think they do a good job of General Aviation promotion. AOPA and EAA do the small airplane drivers a needed service in protecting our interests in Washington, and NBAA covers the business aviation side.
I think that the "AOPA is anti-airline" kind of talk is divisive. I'd much rather see pilots pulling together as a group than to be splintering and fighting each other.
I think that the "AOPA is anti-airline" kind of talk is divisive. I'd much rather see pilots pulling together as a group than to be splintering and fighting each other.
sigmanu499
New Member
I havn't been a member for years and still get mailers they even found me when I moved, I think thats where the $39 goes. I really wish AOPA did stand up for aviation, but they helped sell off flight service and now look how "much better" fss is. I really do agree with other posters, find another org that supports what you want to do, ALPA, NBAA, NATCA, etc. They might be more money but they have better connections and power in Washington DC and will do a much better job of representing your interests than AOPA.
Stone Cold
Well-Known Member
Absolutely, positively agree 100%. The only reason I didn't stay on for their legal services is doing the international thing I don't think this will be much help. If I was still flying in the US, and if I return to flying in the US, I will resume with them for the plan. Who knows, maybe they would be able to help internationally and I should get back with their legal plan...I'll have to make some calls.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Agreed. Contribute to the cause that will best support your livelihood.
Not really. Virtually every major initiative I've seen AOPA take up over the past few years has been to support the rich guys with their $1 million+ turboprops and business jets. The little guy that contributes to AOPA is just propping up the rich guys.
PCL, when are you supporting ATA...they have the airlines best interest in mind...you do support them, right?
Yes, there are occasions when I will stand shoulder to shoulder with the ATA when it is in the best interest of my profession. For instance, ALPA and the ATA both fought together to get the message out there that there needs to be a change in oil commodities trading to end the ridiculous roller coaster of oil costs. When the ATA is taking action that will defend my industry and my profession, I'll back them up. But my primary defender is ALPA, and that's where my money goes.
That's a nice utopian thought, but different pilots have different interests. Your interests are not my interests. The NBAA will best support you, and ALPA will best support me.
trafficinsight
Well-Known Member
The airlines are anti-AOPA and pro user-fees... I think that's pretty telling right there.
Also, the next time you enter class B airspace in a Cessna, thank AOPA.
Without AOPA, Customs would be authorized to shoot you down.
Without AOPA, my airport and a lot of other airports in the US would be parks, or strip malls by now.
Without AOPA, if flight service gave you bad info and you flew through a TFR, you would be violated.
Without AOPA, we would have been paying user fees since the 1970's.
AOPA gives out flight training scholarships, and you don't even have to be a rich fat cat with a CJ to get one!
Cessna is building new airplanes today along with many other manufacturers, in part thanks to AOPA's advocacy of liability reform.
But hey, I guess if all that stuff isn't worth 39$ a year, I guess you could like, use one of the rental car discounts, or something.
Also, the next time you enter class B airspace in a Cessna, thank AOPA.
Without AOPA, Customs would be authorized to shoot you down.
Without AOPA, my airport and a lot of other airports in the US would be parks, or strip malls by now.
Without AOPA, if flight service gave you bad info and you flew through a TFR, you would be violated.
Without AOPA, we would have been paying user fees since the 1970's.
AOPA gives out flight training scholarships, and you don't even have to be a rich fat cat with a CJ to get one!
Cessna is building new airplanes today along with many other manufacturers, in part thanks to AOPA's advocacy of liability reform.
But hey, I guess if all that stuff isn't worth 39$ a year, I guess you could like, use one of the rental car discounts, or something.