lost another one today

mjg407 said:
T-42,
Names are now released on the news of the crew. First day of contract heading down to Alamogordo NM from home base in MT.
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RIP. Sorry to hear Neptune has suffered another loss. I can still remember their P-2 that went down 11 years ago near Reserve, NM, fatally injuring two. One of our fire crews was working in the area of that one during that time.
 
MikeD said:
RIP. Sorry to hear Neptune has suffered another loss. I can still remember their P-2 that went down 11 years ago near Reserve, NM, fatally injuring two. One of our fire crews was working in the area of that one during that time.
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The had one auger in last year taking off out of stead as well.
 
Sad in that this was a 100% preventable... from the Helena news..


Park said visibility was only 100 feet when the plane failed to clear Stockton Pass. It missed the pass by an eighth of a mile and slammed into a mountain instead, but should have been flying much higher, he said.

The plane was being tracked by the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, which lost track of it before the pilot could report any trouble or issue a distress signal, the sheriff said.

"The fire aviation community lost good people and a valuable resource today and they will be missed," said Jennifer Myslivy, a New Mexico-based fire mitigation and education specialist for the U.S. Bureau of Land Management.

The Oquirrh mountains where the plane went down frame the west side of the Salt Lake valley.
 
Do we know if they were on an IFR flight plan?
I am also curious as to whether or not they have the terrain feature we have . . .
 
mjg407 said:
Sad in that this was a 100% preventable... from the Helena news..


Park said visibility was only 100 feet when the plane failed to clear Stockton Pass. It missed the pass by an eighth of a mile and slammed into a mountain instead, but should have been flying much higher, he said.

The plane was being tracked by the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, which lost track of it before the pilot could report any trouble or issue a distress signal, the sheriff said.

"The fire aviation community lost good people and a valuable resource today and they will be missed," said Jennifer Myslivy, a New Mexico-based fire mitigation and education specialist for the U.S. Bureau of Land Management.

The Oquirrh mountains where the plane went down frame the west side of the Salt Lake valley.
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This one, it appears, has many similarities to Minden Air's P-2 T-99 that crashed in the California mountains in 2003, also on a pre-positioning flight with IMC conditions enroute. Aircraft was enroute from PRC to SBD at the time.

Yes, Neptune/Black Hills has had 4 accidents now in the past 15 years; 3 during firefighting ops and the latest one just the other day. [T-04, Montana 1994; T-08, New Mexico 1998; T-09, Nevada 2008; and this one]. Condolences to the Neptune family.

Like military flying, it's a business with dangerous potential at times, and with small margins for error during those times. It's always tough when the "normal" times, the ones that are supposed to be routine, come up to bite.
 
MikeD said:
This one, it appears, has many similarities to Minden Air's P-2 T-99 that crashed in the California mountains in 2003, also on a pre-positioning flight with IMC conditions enroute. Aircraft was enroute from PRC to SBD at the time.

Yes, Neptune/Black Hills has had 4 accidents now in the past 15 years; 3 during firefighting ops and the latest one just the other day. [T-04, Montana 1994; T-08, New Mexico 1998; T-09, Nevada 2008; and this one]. Condolences to the Neptune family.

Like military flying, it's a business with dangerous potential at times, and with small margins for error during those times. It's always tough when the "normal" times, the ones that are supposed to be routine, come up to bite.
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This accident is very similar to T-99's down by SBD.
 
I have actually flown the son of one the pilots, he is an aspiring pilot and was very proud of his father and would always have stories about the type of flying his pops did. RIP to the crew....
 
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