:rotfl: never thought Lockmart would put that into a PIREP...that is great!
For some reason this strikes me as something Boris would say.Perhaps this is common, but I've never seen it before...
RMG UA /OV RMG /TM 1705 /FL045 /TP P28A /WX FV10SM /TA 17 /TB MOD /RM DIFFICULT TO DRINK COFFEE
Well, I guess I won't be taking coffee for my afternoon lesson.
For some reason this strikes me as something Boris would say.![]()
For Boris to say that, it would have to be one rough ride!
I can't count the times I was in lt chop or smooth air behind a guy who reported mod turb or even severe. I think most pilots are too subjective when making a UA. But, "difficult to drink coffee" is meaningful.
Leave a pencil on a flat area, if the pencil moves or bounces that's moderate. When you can't hold altitude that's severe. Been in severe, not at all appealing.I can't count the times I was in lt chop or smooth air behind a guy who reported mod turb or even severe. I think most pilots are too subjective when making a UA. But, "difficult to drink coffee" is meaningful.
So you mean a downdraft in laminar flow which exceeds your climb capabilities could be severe? How 'bout ocassional uncommanded rolls and unable to maintain a 4,000 block alt while your teeth rattle in their sockets? And that's only moderate turb.Leave a pencil on a flat area, if the pencil moves or bounces that's moderate. When you can't hold altitude that's severe. Been in severe, not at all appealing.
I don't know why it gets so subjective
Aim really doesn't seem that seem that subjective to me.So you mean a downdraft in laminar flow which exceeds your climb capabilities could be severe? How 'bout ocassional uncommanded rolls and unable to maintain a 4,000 block alt while your teeth rattle in their sockets? And that's only moderate turb.
Refer to the AIM to see why it's subjective to each pilot's perception. (The AIM is open to wide interpretation.) Add liberal doses of CFIs not having the experience to provide quantative coorelation of what is written to what it feels like.
I would hardly say a pencil moving on the dash is moderate turb. maybe mod chop at most. And just because you cant hold altitude doesnt justify it as sever turbulance-thats a downdraft, go do some mountain flying.
I would hardly say a pencil moving on the dash is moderate turb. maybe mod chop at most. And just because you cant hold altitude doesnt justify it as sever turbulance-thats a downdraft, go do some mountain flying.
Add liberal doses of CFIs not having the experience to provide quantative coorelation of what is written to what it feels like.
And please, don't let this thread devolve into, "You're dangerous I would never fly with you.".