if the place you get it from is a club, yesIf a rental aircraft is coming up on a 100-hour inspection, may I (as a renter) rent the airplane and overfly the inspection?
I heard instruction cannot be given, or the airplane used for hire, but it may be rented out to customers
if the place you get it from is a club, yes
if not, you may be SOL
100% correct and excellently-phrased explanation!An aircraft can be rented beyond its 100 hour inspection. Having an FBO or flying club providing the aircraft has nothing to do with it.
The 100 hour inspection is required for aircraft *carrying people or giving flight instruction for hire*. Rental is not a "for hire" operation.
This is all spelled out in 14 CFR 91.409(b).
The 10 hour rule is only for ferrying the aircraft to a location for the inspection to be performed. It is *not* for, "We're really busy giving instruction and don't want to take the plane offline until tomorrow." Read the 91.409 reg.
Ok, now, all of this being said, if you're going to rent a plane past the 100 hour inspection, make sure there are no recurring Airworthiness Directives. A lot of aircraft have ADs that must be complied with every 100 hours, and that has nothing to do with instruction/rental/private use, that's simply airworthiness, period. If the FBO wants to comply with the recurring ADs, then send it out for rent before performing a full 100 hour inspection, that's legal.
Nah, I can't remember the reg about you may only fly up to 10 for maintenance.
We don't?is he one of those people that think that CFI need a second class to teach?
I brought this up to one of my professors and he said it was illegal for me to go fly after the 100-hour.
There's the paper weight gotcha.Ok, now, all of this being said, if you're going to rent a plane past the 100 hour inspection, make sure there are no recurring Airworthiness Directives.
We don't?
Kidding. No really...kidding.
For all intents and purposes of a hobby flier, I tell them the 100 hour is a hard line.
Yeah but that's a potentially dangerous technical point. It's usually used by FBOs - "we rent to the student, not the instructor" - to avoid the 100 hr inspection requirement. There are probably situations where the FBO is =really= renting to a brand new student pilot for his first lesson but...What if they get that question on their checkride?
Also, no one has mentioned it yet in so many words, but the airplane is only required to have the 100hr inspection when used for flight instruction if the instructor supplies the airplane. If you're renting it as a student and hiring an instructor then it's not required.
Yeah but that's a potentially dangerous technical point. It's usually used by FBOs - "we rent to the student, not the instructor" - to avoid the 100 hr inspection requirement. There are probably situations where the FBO is =really= renting to a brand new student pilot for his first lesson but...
My semi-educated guess is that FBO insurance would not permit an FBO to rent an airplane to a student pilot except for solos. And that there's a pretty good chance that the FAA will look at the operation and say, nope, you were placing the airplane in the control if the CFI and collapse the transaction into what it really is - the FBO providing the airplane to the instructor and the instructor providing it for instruction.
In either case, guess who's holding the bag if something happens? The student? Nah. The FBO? Sorry, there's no FBO certificate for the FAA to go after.
So I guess that the instructors don't need to even be on an approved list and, if a student wanted to fly with Joe Instructor who they never heard it would be okay?At the school I work at, the instructors are independent, the school doesn't pay them, and it's up to the student who they fly with and what airplane they fly. I think it's pretty clear in that case. We do 100hr inspections because I we think, for safety's sake, that they are necessary, but sometimes they do get overflown by a few hours. Your school may be in a different situation.
At any rate, it's not up to the school to decide what's legal.
So I guess that the instructors don't need to even be on an approved list and, if a student wanted to fly with Joe Instructor who they never heard it would be okay?