ExpressJet Internship

It would be a good opportunity but I would try and see if you can get a similar internship at a major airline.

Not that an internship at ExpressJet would not be worth it but in times of hiring these days, if you were able to get an interview at ExpressJet then you'd probably be able to get an interview someplace similar too.

ExpressJet is years from hiring. Many other places are too.

In short, an internship at a vendor airline can get you an internship and a great experience.

But an internship at a major airline could potentially get you a career.
 
*The opportunity to complete a ERJ transition course including ground school, FTD and full motion simulator training.
*A guaranteed interview for a pilot position

Those 2 are pretty big positives.

If I got this then I'd have guaranteed interviews at XJ and Mesaba...hmm :)
 
off topic...Sorry. But when I read this title the first thing that came to mind was a right seat internship, my jaw droped till I opened the thread.:laff:
 
PGT said:
*The opportunity to complete a ERJ transition course including ground school, FTD and full motion simulator training.
*A guaranteed interview for a pilot position

Those 2 are pretty big positives.

If I got this then I'd have guaranteed interviews at XJ and Mesaba...hmm :)
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SO did someone get a Mesaba internship?
 
PGT said:
*The opportunity to complete a ERJ transition course including ground school, FTD and full motion simulator training.
*A guaranteed interview for a pilot position

Those 2 are pretty big positives.

If I got this then I'd have guaranteed interviews at XJ and Mesaba...hmm :)
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not to be a smartass, but XJ= Mesaba. ha....i know what you meant tho
 
I did this internship last year in the spring. It was a great experience jumpseating on all the repo flights out of ONT and LAX. We spent a month in Houston for tours of the airport and the ERJ groundschool. After the two weeks of ERJ systems in the classroom we took the written test that XJT gives their new FOs. After that we did two days in the FTD with an instructor, then about 3 hours in the full motion.

In retrospect it was good for the sake of life experience, but me working in Switzerland now making twice as much as new FO is proof it didn't help my American flying career. Keep in mind you are WORKING for free, doing office stuff that a secretary otherwise would. After 6 months of doing work for an airline, I got a $30 gift certificate to a company store that doesn't exist anymore.

Lastly, you get bennies on Continental and COEX 3x a month for the duration of the internship and 3 months after. I love ExpressJet and still feel it's one of the finest regionals out there.<O:p</O:p
 
RWH1986 said:
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Found this internship on their website and wondering if anybody has taken part. They are in my top 3 airlines to fly for hopefully out of college. Anybody know the mins? I noticed it said "A guaranteed interview for a pilot position" but what do they mean by this if there are lots of their pilots already on furlough?
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As Nick said, it'll probably be years before ExpressJet hires again. Allow me to try to break it down for you by the numbers.

ExpressJet presently has aprox. 350 pilots on furlough. Before one pilot can come back on property, at least in theory, 350 pilots need to leave ExpressJet or the company needs to acquire 350 pilots worth of new flying. Good luck, we saw how well that went last time.

The present attrition rate is something between zero and negative four pilots per month. The negative number is from pilots coming back from military leave, COLA's and medical leave.

The original hope was that the attrition rate was going to be 20 a month, but it hasn't happened and I don't expect it to.

So let's say one year after the furloughs, the attrition rate finally hits 20 per month.

That means that, starting one year after the furlough, it'll take 17.5 months to get everybody back on property. Now that's a best case situation kind of number, because it again assumes an attrition rate that simply hasn't occurred at ExpressJet in the last 5 months since the furlough.

You can account for some people moving on to places like Compass and Mesaba, but they're a small number. A lot of folks went to places like Cape Air and part 135 freight operators, and they'll exercise their recall rights. You've got a small handful of people like me who are getting out of the game completely, but I wouldn't say we're a majority by any stretch of the imagination.

Now my personal guess? It's going to be a 3-4 year furlough for me, and I have 150 folks under me (or at least I did when the furlough hit). By all accounts, I'll be out of law school before I actually get a recall letter.

IF I get one. I can tell you right now the company isn't planning on recalling ANYBODY in 2009, to say nothing of new hires.

Who knows if every regional is going to take this long to recall, but I wouldn't put too many eggs in the ExpressJet basket. The internship is a great opportunity, and it's a great company; but it's going to be a while before things get moving again.
 
jtrain609 said:
As Nick said, it'll probably be years before ExpressJet hires again. Allow me to try to break it down for you by the numbers.

ExpressJet presently has aprox. 350 pilots on furlough. Before one pilot can come back on property, at least in theory, 350 pilots need to leave ExpressJet or the company needs to acquire 350 pilots worth of new flying. Good luck, we saw how well that went last time.

The present attrition rate is something between zero and negative four pilots per month. The negative number is from pilots coming back from military leave, COLA's and medical leave.

The original hope was that the attrition rate was going to be 20 a month, but it hasn't happened and I don't expect it to.

So let's say one year after the furloughs, the attrition rate finally hits 20 per month.

That means that, starting one year after the furlough, it'll take 17.5 months to get everybody back on property. Now that's a best case situation kind of number, because it again assumes an attrition rate that simply hasn't occurred at ExpressJet in the last 5 months since the furlough.

You can account for some people moving on to places like Compass and Mesaba, but they're a small number. A lot of folks went to places like Cape Air and part 135 freight operators, and they'll exercise their recall rights. You've got a small handful of people like me who are getting out of the game completely, but I wouldn't say we're a majority by any stretch of the imagination.

Now my personal guess? It's going to be a 3-4 year furlough for me, and I have 150 folks under me (or at least I did when the furlough hit). By all accounts, I'll be out of law school before I actually get a recall letter.

IF I get one. I can tell you right now the company isn't planning on recalling ANYBODY in 2009, to say nothing of new hires.

Who knows if every regional is going to take this long to recall, but I wouldn't put too many eggs in the ExpressJet basket. The internship is a great opportunity, and it's a great company; but it's going to be a while before things get moving again.
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You miss it, don't ya? ;)
 
PGT said:
*The opportunity to complete a ERJ transition course including ground school, FTD and full motion simulator training.
*A guaranteed interview for a pilot position

Those 2 are pretty big positives.

If I got this then I'd have guaranteed interviews at XJ and Mesaba...hmm :)
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Mesaba and Mesaba? Dick Van Dyke = Penis Van Lesbian.

Good luck getting a gauranteed interview at a company 100 pilots over staffed!!!
 
If you guys want to get paid, have fun and learn something, you guys need to look at the Southwest Airlines internship! I have a few friends that did the Flight Ops internship at WN, and they all had a blast! Coming along on delivery flights, company BBQs on the rooftop at HQ at DAL, etc. I'm furloughed now and wish I could do this internship ;)
 
I think overall it is a good internship. I've seen those guys around and usually they do an excellent job and get to see the inner-workings of the airline. If XJT were to hire, you'd be towards the front of the pack I'm sure.

That being said, I would additionally try to secure an internship at the company you may want to work for 10 years down the road. When the regionals start hiring again, the requirements tend to be pretty low. It really isn't necessary to have some magical "IN" to get your foot in the door. At a major....from what I've seen it can be a little different. It's definitely about knowing people, through work contacts, through groups (OBAP/Women in AV.) as well as having a clean record. It seems like a tougher nut to crack and if you had interned anywhere, well...that would clearly be your "IN."

So....I'd take the XJT internship if you couldn't secure one at a place you'd like to be later on in life.
 
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