Canada working on shutting down all of their airlines

Toonces

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Airfares will soar if a passenger bill of rights, proposed by Winnipeg MP Jim Maloway, is approved, Canada's airline industry has warned.

Maloway tabled his private member's bill in the House of Commons Tuesday. It proposes significant financial penalties to airlines for delayed or cancelled flights, even if it's due to poor weather, as happened to many Canadians during the Christmas holidays.

Travellers would also be protected when bumped from a flight or if they experience baggage problems. Maloway, who represents the Elmwood-Transcona riding of Winnipeg, is also demanding full disclosure of advertised airfares. The bill would penalize airlines with fines of $10,000 every time the full cost of a flight isn't advertised.

'The last thing, in this economic context, that airlines want to do is pass on that cost to passengers but they will have no choice.'
—George Petsikas, National Airlines Council of Canada "The last thing, in this economic context, that airlines want to do is pass on that cost to passengers but they will have no choice. There is no way airlines could absorb that," said George Petsikas, president of the National Airlines Council of Canada. "We have to lower costs to get people to travel but this will have the opposite effect."

Petsikas, whose group represents Air Canada, Air Canada Jazz, WestJet Airlines Ltd. and Air Transat, said Maloway doesn't seem to understand the "supply chain" the air travel industry works on.

Many factors impact schedules
There are many factors that affect whether a flight is on time, including baggage handling, snow clearing and de-icing, said Petsikas, who is also Air Transat's director of government and industry affairs.

"These things have a huge impact on whether we get off on time," he said.

Under Maloway's bill, passengers would be compensated when they are kept on planes on the tarmac for more than 60 minutes after the doors of the plane close. The compensation rate would be set at $500 an hour per person.

As well, any carrier that fails to make an announcement about delays, cancellations or diverted planes within 10 minutes of employees being advised would also be tagged with a $1,000 fine.

Maloway's bill also proposes compensation of between $500 and $1,200 for every traveller bumped off overbooked planes. The amount of the compensation would depend on the length of the flight.

Punishment won't solve anything: NACC
Often, when a flight is delayed, it will be behind schedule at every airport along its route. Petsikas was unclear on whether the airlines would be hit with fines at every stop.

"Unfortunately, we never got a chance to provide meaningful input into the bill. We only saw the text of it when it was tabled on the Commons floor," he said.

Maloway's bill relies on a punitive approach, which will do nothing to solve the problem because it doesn't address the systemic issues, said Petsikas, who is also Air Transat's director of government and industry affairs.

"It [air travel industry] is a network system that, at the best of times, is a challenge to keep running smoothly," he said.
 
If the Government wants airplanes to be on time, charging airlines isn't going to fix it. Re-regulation will bring back the on-time days. Hell, nationalize the airlines for all I care. They'll probably be asking for a bailout here in the next 6-12 months anyway.
 
If the Government wants airplanes to be on time, charging airlines isn't going to fix it. Re-regulation will bring back the on-time days. Hell, nationalize the airlines for all I care. They'll probably be asking for a bailout here in the next 6-12 months anyway.

Most of the problems with aircraft delays are weather related, re-regulation will do nothing to change the weather.

The airlines can be their own worst enemy, with the way they schedule flights.
 
Most of the problems with aircraft delays are weather related, re-regulation will do nothing to change the weather.

The airlines can be their own worst enemy, with the way they schedule flights.

And the way they schedule flights is directly related to de-regulation.

Re-regulating the industry would place certain restrictions in place to reduce the scheduling nightmare.

Re-regulation will do something to change schedules. Has nothing to do with weather, etc. It's over saturation of our airspace.
 
Actually, it might not be a bad idea to nationalize the airlines. Combine them all into 2 or 3 carriers. Sort out the seniority lists by DoH and institute a common pay scale for each type of airplane.

Be sure to add UPS and FedEx into the equation.































:sarcasm:
 
I agree on the user fees....it's a great idea and I have canceled my AOPA membership since they are fighting so hard against them!!!


I also think we need to bring back all the decommissioned ADFs and shoot the GPS satellites out of the sky. Oh and CRM stuff....nothing but crap. Back to the days of Captains being the ONLY person who matters on the plane and oh, oh, I know....we need stewardess again....not flight attendents...

Oh man, I could keep on going.....





















If you are REALLY nieve....this is all :sarcasm:


But seriously...Toonces, you need to 86 that avatar!!!
 
I was going to introduce you to the 2 Billion lost in a program to register firearms across Canada in order to prevent crime...

Then I was going to introduce another story which had 1 Billion completely disappear under an HRDC (Human Resources Development Canada) scheme...

But those pail in comparison to the 900 billion "stimulus" package just passed this weekend, not to mention TARP from last fall.

Socialism isn't only across the Atlantic anymore. But I digress...
 
I hope this bill does not pass, and I really doubt it will. I will be so ashamed if it does though. Honestly, sometimes Canadians piss me off!
 
A Canadian with a Starbuck's Avatar? I thought you guys were all about the Tim Horton's?


Ha! Im very anti-Tim Hortons. I don't like their service or their extremely crappy coffee. I will only drink Tim's coffee if it's free, or, if I have no other choices available. One time on a layover, I went to Tim Horton's for breakfast and got a bagel and muffin, then I walked 10 minutes down the street to get a coffee from McDonalds. If there's no McDonald's, Starbucks, or Second Cup, I go for the coffee in the hotel.

I'm all about Starbucks. The lineups at any Tim Hortons in T1 in YYZ are always wayyyy longer than the Starbucks line. I dont think people realize that a Starbucks coffee is not much more expensive (at T1 I pay $1.77 after taxes for a tall, and $2.09 for a grande). Much better coffee, more caffeine, and bigger cups.

Verona-blend is the best too!!
 
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