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BadPassportPhoto said:
Confirmed for awesomeness. I called and spoke to Pam and said "So even though the gentleman I spoke to earlier told me I was not selected yadda yadda yadda" she said not to worry as they don't even have half the information they should and they only have notice of a few people who were selected. I'm not a religious man but I pray to actually get selected:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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Praying by hitting your head? :D
 
At what point in the process does the FAA consult with your employer? I would rather let my employer know what is going on before the FAA does. Any advice?
 
Finding the exact date is really quite simple you see, I heard this from a pretty high up at the FAA:

First you take the moon while it is in the sign of aries, then you find the angle that shadows cast from the Eiffel tower upon the park bench closest northwestern corner, divide that by the air velocity of a laden swallow, and subtract the number of fingers George Washingtons white horse had. Once you have that its just a simple matter of plugging in into the formula below for e:

1zx / [(r2-d2) + (c3-p0) / 42] + e

OR

You could just tell them now and explain that you would greately appreciate a positive review as being an ATC is something you have wanted to do since you were knee high to a grasshopper... Having had several of my people leave on similar type things, I can tell you from an employers point of view that the more in the loop we are in the better we can accomodate your and our needs... It costs money to train new people, and the most we can get out of people before the leave the better it is for us, AND your replacement, if it makes it to that point.

UNLESS that is, you are about to get fired anyway, in which case, I'm not too sure how they find out is going to matter, the result will probably be the same....

Before I even sent in my application I cornered the owner of the company I work for, explained what was going on and what I inteded to do. He wished me the best of luck, told me that he knew he wouldn't be able to hold on to me forever since I was being vastly underutilized and promised me the best review from an employer anybody could want. Since then, he has asked me progress on a pretty regular basis and seems genuinely interested in me making it!
 
PiedTyper said:
Finding the exact date is really quite simple you see, I heard this from a pretty high up at the FAA:

First you take the moon while it is in the sign of aries, then you find the angle that shadows cast from the Eiffel tower upon the park bench closest northwestern corner, divide that by the air velocity of a laden swallow, and subtract the number of fingers George Washingtons white horse had. Once you have that its just a simple matter of plugging in into the formula below for e:

1zx / [(r2-d2) + (c3-p0) / 42] + e

OR

You could just tell them now and explain that you would greately appreciate a positive review as being an ATC is something you have wanted to do since you were knee high to a grasshopper... Having had several of my people leave on similar type things, I can tell you from an employers point of view that the more in the loop we are in the better we can accomodate your and our needs... It costs money to train new people, and the most we can get out of people before the leave the better it is for us, AND your replacement, if it makes it to that point.

UNLESS that is, you are about to get fired anyway, in which case, I'm not too sure how they find out is going to matter, the result will probably be the same....

Before I even sent in my application I cornered the owner of the company I work for, explained what was going on and what I inteded to do. He wished me the best of luck, told me that he knew he wouldn't be able to hold on to me forever since I was being vastly underutilized and promised me the best review from an employer anybody could want. Since then, he has asked me progress on a pretty regular basis and seems genuinely interested in me making it!
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I agree that this is an excellent approach. However, my question is at what stage does the FAA consult your employer? I have no worries of getting fired, but I don't feel as if I should say something until really certain about my future with the FAA.
 
dredding said:
I agree that this is an excellent approach. However, my question is at what stage does the FAA consult your employer? I have no worries of getting fired, but I don't feel as if I should say something until really certain about my future with the FAA.
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My approach was to mention to my boss casually that I applied to an ATC job over the summer, but then didn't hear much back. That way it was on his radar. He actually turned out to be somewhat interested in ATC, and I told him yesterday that I might get an interview in a few months but that the job wouldn't start for quite a while if I got it.
 
I may not have to alert my employer, but depending on how long this takes I might have to pull out of the semester at school after the last drop date and take F's. The conundrum exists because if we're delayed in this process and I don't take any classes I miss a semester. Sux both ways, but it's all worth it.
 
dredding said:
At what point in the process does the FAA consult with your employer? I would rather let my employer know what is going on before the FAA does. Any advice?
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they wont contact your employer until after your PEPC. then they send them a letter to fill out. then, after you receive your FOL, and a few days before your OKC class date, they call them to make sure you have worked there and stuff.
 
You shouldn't have to take F's at worst you sould only end up with "W"s (withdrawn) but at least where I went to college, if you talk to the professor a lot of them will either offer an incomplete (called an "E" here) or will allow you to take your final early or "pass or fail"

I seriously doubt that youll be in OKC before May anyway...
 
Well the semester starts next month and ends middle of June, and the school I go to gives you the opportunity to drop first and get no grades, then drop and get a "W", then after a certain date you can't drop anymore and take whatever grade they give you. It's right after the halfway mark in the semester, so anywhere between April and June I'm SOL.
 
dredding said:
I agree that this is an excellent approach. However, my question is at what stage does the FAA consult your employer? I have no worries of getting fired, but I don't feel as if I should say something until really certain about my future with the FAA.
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My husband let his employer know the moment he was accepted to a PEPC. He had been told (and it actually has held true from what we have seen) that if you are invited to a PEPC or interview, you have the job as long as you pass background and physical stuff. If you have worries about either of those, then think a little more before doing...especially since you will have another 3-4 months at the least before you start at the FAA. If you aren't too worried passing physical and background...let you boss know.

My husband also told the date he would be leaving 6 weeks before he left and then he had to give an OFFICIAL 2 week notice as well but he actually left his job on REALLY good terms because he gave them so much advanced notice. Hiring someone takes longer than 2 weeks much less hiring and training. His company was really impressed and grateful and told him if he ever needed a job they would have an opening for him. Honesty was the best policy there. Yes I am aware not all jobs are that great with honesty but most jobs in which you do more than a trained teenage monkey is capable are grateful for the notice.
 
McLovinIt said:
Well the semester starts next month and ends middle of June, and the school I go to gives you the opportunity to drop first and get no grades, then drop and get a "W", then after a certain date you can't drop anymore and take whatever grade they give you. It's right after the halfway mark in the semester, so anywhere between April and June I'm SOL.
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i graduate in july so im going to try my best not to get a class date any sooner then that. my teachers are willing to budge a couple weeks if need be.
 
This is true. Though it seems every little bit of info I get as I have gone along this path makes me even more anxious for the next little bit. This application process is like a drug I GOTTA HAVE MORE
 
vyper1278 said:
This application process is like a drug I GOTTA HAVE MORE
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Therefore, when you get to the medical exam you'll be so hopped up on "ASAP," you'll probably fail. Beware, what they call "ASAP" is a known gateway drug, and can lead to "OKC", "FAA", and eventually "401k." :bandit:
 
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