ppragman
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I doubt it, too dangerous at 1200TT
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I doubt it, too dangerous at 1200TT
And 1500 hours is that much safer? The Van is a lot easier to fly than the 207 anyway.
ppragman
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Nope, but about 2000hrs is a better number. That's about what hageland is putting down on the dotted line for upgrade into the van on average, or more. I sincerely doubt that Grant would put you in the van at 1500TT either, you'd have to come there with at least 1000TT, and then a year to a year and a half later you'd upgrade, count on like 2000-2500TT before you're in the van.
I remember how I was at 1200hrs, hell, that was last summer, and I'm much more cautious and cognizant of things now than I was then, in another 500TT I'm sure I'll think the same way about my time now, but at least I'll be more cautious.
Re: Cheechako Aviator
If you're talking about other bush operators I have no idea. Obviously you're not the average 1000 hour wonder but again you've never done the whole sled into 1500 feet thing either. It would really depend on who you talk too and when you talk to them. If you were standing in a CP's office with those kinds of times and he had a need you could probably find your way in. Don't count on just emailing your resume off from the lower 48 to a bunch of operators and expecting an offer sight unseen. Not saying it would never happen, but don't count on it.
BTW, 29 deg in ANC right now, heat wave!
If you're talking about Empire I doubt AK time would be much of an issue. You'd be doing IFR flying to two or three different destinations.
If you're talking about other bush operators I have no idea. Obviously you're not the average 1000 hour wonder but again you've never done the whole sled into 1500 feet thing either. It would really depend on who you talk too and when you talk to them. If you were standing in a CP's office with those kinds of times and he had a need you could probably find your way in. Don't count on just emailing your resume off from the lower 48 to a bunch of operators and expecting an offer sight unseen. Not saying it would never happen, but don't count on it.
BTW, 29 deg in ANC right now, heat wave!
Hey, I'm just telling your verbatim what the CP said to me in his office. What the heck does he know?
Hageland mins have not a lot to do with hours, but availability of aircraft. Most guys spend a winter or two in the 207 and have to pass the drinking buddy test (and the ability to stay sane in the Bethel pilot house, not an easy thing).
Grant is definitely a bit more low key in a lot of regards. You telling me that a 1200 hour guy would have issues going between ANC and HOM all day?
ppragman
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A 1200TT guy wouldn't have issues with ANC and HOM, but he would have issues with BET and Emmonak, Bet and Sain't Maries, BET and you get the picture.
Well actually you just listed some of the easy ones, but I see where you're going with that.
That said, I'd rather fly the Van into any of the 'hard' ones rather than the 207, but I've got way more time in the Van than the 207 as well.
ppragman
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Its not the runways, its the icing and the associated judgement calls that come with flying IFR in the van (bootleg or otherwise) add into that a culture of "getter'dun" and you can see how it might get tough (though Grant is pretty good on the culture) There's a reason that no one is flying the van in alaska with IFR 135 mins, and insurance ain't the only reason.
Inverted25
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If your future goal was to fly a van for a fedex feeder such as MAC or Empire would it be wise to get your single engine ATP. I mean would it give you a edge up over applicants who dont have it.
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staplegun
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I thought this was a thread about the "original" Empire Airlines (1976-1985)!
My second airline job was with Piedmont (the "original" Piedmont) and my first base was in Syracuse flying the F-28 with all of the old Empire captains.
Interesting group, interesting times!
Kevin
My second airline job was with Piedmont (the "original" Piedmont) and my first base was in Syracuse flying the F-28 with all of the old Empire captains.
Interesting group, interesting times!
Kevin
ppragman
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They told me to reapply when I had the requisite time, and that there would probably be openings.
staplegun
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Meeeeeeem'riiiiiiiiiies of the time (well, crap, not like I really know that song or anything...)
I was only based in Syracuse for 2 or 3 months, after that I moved to Charlotte.
Piedmont had the "Florida Shuttle" then - we had 4 day trips where the first leg would be CLT-"somewhere-in Florida" and then we would spend the next 4 days never leaving the state of Florida until the last leg back to CLT. Those were some great trips!
Kevin