Yet another.... AIRLINEAPPS! Question?

SpiceWeasel

SpiceWeasel

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Hey, resident experts... @Derg et. al.

Under My Flight Time / By Simulator, the columns look like this:

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Now, as far as my understanding of logging time the following is true:

If you are logging full motion sim time, you are not logging total time.

I infer from this that you cannot log "PIC" sim or "SIC" sim. Or, if you can, it's superfluous, you wouldn't actually log it, you would just manually break down the sim time so that the box is filled out as airlineapps wishes it to be.

Well, with Logbook Pro, in order for these columns to populate the AirlineApps report, you have to log your sim time as SIC or PIC (or any of the the other columns that might apply)... but when you do, it affects the total time listed in your logbook. (In other words, my total SIC becomes "aircraft SIC + Sim SIC = total SIC").

What gives?
 
I personally just don't log sim time. I figure two type ratings is enough to show I can fly a sim
 
Who logs sim time besides when your flight instructor made you log it during your primary/instrument days? The only time I have heard of someone doing it after was to get their ATP and using their 121 sim time.
 
ClarkGriswold said:
Who logs sim time besides when your flight instructor made you log it during your primary/instrument days? The only time I have heard of someone doing it after was to get their ATP and using their 121 sim time.
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I know a lot of people that do. I never have but to make sure my app is complete I'm contemplating going back and pulling my training records to put it all in there.
 
ClarkGriswold said:
Who logs sim time besides when your flight instructor made you log it during your primary/instrument days? The only time I have heard of someone doing it after was to get their ATP and using their 121 sim time.
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Gouge on specific airlines stated "they wanted 121 checkrides" in the logbook....
 
Skåning said:
Which ones?
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WFFF gouge for an airline (it's a people transportation service, but that's not important right now):

Then to the next holding room (much larger) to deliver your logbooks and paperwork. Make sure you have everything asked for. Guest help from CPOs look through the logbooks. The ones that got sticky notes with follow-up questions generally were about checkride dates for civilians and total hours for military (tough to decode sometimes). A few former regional guys didn't have their checkrides in their logbooks because they were in sims. I put a memo on top of my mix of military and civilian logbooks that explained them... no followups for me. <airline> Capt that prepared me said being rude to the person checking in your paperwork is sometimes the first place where things go wrong.
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I have always logged lofts/PC's and initial/transition sims. Only category is sim time though. I figure it doesn't hurt if I need to know my last PC/Loft... Don't see harm in it either way though.
 
norcalpilot25 said:
Do they want to see the sim instructors signature on each entry?
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If I'd asked a sim instructor to sign my logbook, I'm pretty sure the most likely responses would include at least one of the following:

1. Retroactively failing that sim session.

2. Laughing at me and walking out of the briefing room.

3. Failing me out of the entire training program.

4. Staring at me until I left the briefing room.

5. Asking me why in the world I brought my logbook with me to a sim event.

@PhilosopherPilot, what would your response be?
 
jtrain609 said:
If I'd asked a sim instructor to sign my logbook, I'm pretty sure the most likely responses would include at least one of the following:

1. Retroactively failing that sim session.

2. Laughing at me and walking out of the briefing room.

3. Failing me out of the entire training program.

4. Staring at me until I left the briefing room.

5. Asking me why in the world I brought my logbook with me to a sim event.

@PhilosopherPilot, what would your response be?
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I think a blank stare as I consider how it could come back and bite me in the ass if I sign his book. I quit signing log books a long time ago in the interest of keeping my certificate free of FAA enforcement action. :)
 
PhilosopherPilot said:
I think a blank stare as I consider how it could come back and bite me in the ass if I sign his book. I quit signing log books a long time ago in the interest of keeping my certificate free of FAA enforcement action. :)
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Considering air carrier instructors don't exercise their flight instructor certificates, you have an excellent point,
 
jtrain609 said:
If I'd asked a sim instructor to sign my logbook, I'm pretty sure the most likely responses would include at least one of the following:

1. Retroactively failing that sim session.

2. Laughing at me and walking out of the briefing room.

3. Failing me out of the entire training program.

4. Staring at me until I left the briefing room.

5. Asking me why in the world I brought my logbook with me to a sim event.

@PhilosopherPilot, what would your response be?
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lol I would expect #4

Seeing as how all my time is logged electronically that would prove to be difficult anyway. And like you were saying before, if they want the records why not just get them from pria?
 
Eh, on my last interview the interviewer grilled me on why I was missing a sim session logged in January 2010 in my personal logbook. Caught me by surprise.
 
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