XJT TA Rejected!
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Trip7
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Apparently United investor call said 34 135/145s being parked at the end of Jan. I believe all XJT.
Company had chart out on the company homepage a while back showing the loss of aircraft per year. I remember seeing a significant amount of ERJs off the table in 2014
ComplexHiAv8r
Well-Known Member
The data I saw one time was maybe 12-15 in 14, and then no more until 15. Wish I did a screenshot. Think all the 135s will go?Trip7 said:
Trip7
Well-Known Member
You're right, I'm looking at the wrong year.
motormadness24
Well-Known Member
All 135's for sure and 22 145's will be gone by the end of '15. United said they want 25 145's gone by the end of '14. My best guess is we'll probably share that with CHQ and/or TSA.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Why, exactly, do you guess that? Wouldn't it make the most sense to get rid of the most expensive contracts?
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
I guess it depends on if they can actually get rid of the contracts. Not sure how they are written.
juxtapilot
Snowflake
They could dump all XJT flying tomorrow if they wanted to.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
I'm glad somebody has finally realized this.
falconvalley
Absentee Dad of the OOTSK, Runner, Cat Frustrator
Please tell me N12528 is not on the chopping block!!
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
Then what I'd the point in even having a contract for these planes if it means nothing?
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
You're thinking in too linear of a fashion. A contract could be terminated by both sides, bought out, renegotiated, breached (which may or may not have repercussions), or followed through on.
Contracts aren't meant to be broken, but they can be.
motormadness24
Well-Known Member
What they mean is that while there is a contract, there is a variety of ways to get out of the original agreements. Whether the mainline partner claims performance, or a 2-1 trade, or just a simple early termination. I'm sure they could get very creative if they wanted to. If recent events are any indicator, I'm sure our mainline partners could yank a CPA out from us if they wanted to on a whim.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
Fair enough. Chances are that SkyWest wouldn't go after their customer since they would want to keep flying for them. Such a stupid industry.
Right, it just doesn't make sense to even make a contract then. You go after a mainline carrier for a breach of contract and you just put any future flying at risk. There seems to be no winning for a regional airline with a CPA.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
That's ANY industry. If you think this is bad, spend some time studying what goes on between subcontractors and general contractors in the construction industry.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
Right, but I would figure that most other industries would have more than 3 potential customers.
falconvalley
Absentee Dad of the OOTSK, Runner, Cat Frustrator
That's assuming there are emotions involved. It's all about the money to them and the smartest understand that they have a limited amount of options. Just like the Regional airlines have a limited amount of options for scoring contracts, so do their customers. If Republic ticks off American, American can always go for someone else. BUT, it would behoove American to have a plan, first because every time you drop an option, you lose more than just that company. You lose the competitive advantage and the odds that you'll get what you want.