XC Logging question

[Slugger]

I want to fly from my home airport (KSFM) to Lawrence airport (KLWM). KSFM-KLWM is 44.5nm. If I fly KSFM-KPWM-KLWM-KPWM-KSFM, can I log the KSFM-KPWM and KPWM-KSFM legs as xc time (they are only 20 or so nm and KPWM-KLWM is like 66nm.)

I was also thinking of KSFM-KBVY-KLWM-KBVY-KSFM, but BVY is just on the edge of being 50nm. from center to center it is something like 49.6, but from end to end it is like 50.1. What would you guys to do log it as cross country time?

 

[drunkenbeagle]

I want to fly from my home airport (KSFM) to Lawrence airport (KLWM). KSFM-KLWM is 44.5nm. If I fly KSFM-KPWM-KLWM-KPWM-KSFM, can I log the KSFM-KPWM and KPWM-KSFM legs as xc time (they are only 20 or so nm and KPWM-KLWM is like 66nm.)

I would log the entire flight as X/C, including all stops. This is consistent with the FAA definition of "flights" and "segments." The commercial solo X/C is a 300 NM "flight" with at least 3 landings, and 250 NM straight line. Mine was a 254 leg, a 7 nm leg, and a 40 nm leg.

The "legs" don't need to be 50 nm, just the total straight line distance.

 

[unclenobby]

Destination airport has to be at least 50 NM from your original point of departure (KSFM). Don't think the SFM PWM would qualify like that (not even sure about the entire flight I bet there is a lot of differing opinions on this)
But if you do, for example, KSFM - KASH (51 NM) - KLWM - KSFM you could log it all as XC.

 

[MidlifeFlyer]

I want to fly from my home airport (KSFM) to Lawrence airport (KLWM). KSFM-KLWM is 44.5nm. If I fly KSFM-KPWM-KLWM-KPWM-KSFM, can I log the KSFM-KPWM and KPWM-KSFM legs as xc time (they are only 20 or so nm and KPWM-KLWM is like 66nm.)

How far it the furthest landing point on the flight from KSFM? If more than 50 nm, the whole thing counts as a cross country toward your certificates and ratings. If it's not more than 50 nm, it doesn't.

I was also thinking of KSFM-KBVY-KLWM-KBVY-KSFM, but BVY is just on the edge of being 50nm. from center to center it is something like 49.6, but from end to end it is like 50.1.

Same question with the same answer.

So pull out your sectional, draw some lines and measure them with your plotter.

BTW, if you get to a point where you are saying, "if I taxi all the town to the edge over here and have my tail stick off the runway, I can make it count" find another airport.

Oh. I just looked at the routes; looks like you're already trying to play "game length." You're in such a great part of the country; go find some other airports instead of shuttling back and forth between the ones you know. Go to Keene.

 

[Slugger]

How far it the furthest landing point on the flight from KSFM? If more than 50 nm, the whole thing counts as a cross country toward your certificates and ratings. If it's not more than 50 nm, it doesn't.

Same question with the same answer.

So pull out your sectional, draw some lines and measure them with your plotter.

BTW, if you get to a point where you are saying, "if I taxi all the town to the edge over here and have my tail stick off the runway, I can make it count" find another airport.

Oh. I just looked at the routes; looks like you're already trying to play "game length." You're in such a great part of the country; go find some other airports instead of shuttling back and forth between the ones you know. Go to Keene.

Yeah. I liked the route the poster above said "KSFM - KASH (51 NM) - KLWM - KSFM"