Working FAs suing for plane crashes?

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Was this a thing? Honestly didn’t know.


4 AS FAs from the plug door case are during Boeing for a very large amount.



Is this really a thing? Where’s the line drawn? Can one sue for emotional damages and injuries sustained during a “normal” emergency scenario that leads to an emergency landing and evac?

Now this DHing F/A on EDV is suing because she says…

Flight attendant claims Delta crash caused by UNDERQUALIFIED pilot

Vanessa Miles, 67, claimed she suffered severe injuries when a Delta plane crash-landed in Toronto and flipped upside down on February 17.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Malko]

As in most cases people go after the deepest pockets. If pilot X met the FAA quals then how was he unqualified?

I say that as Tesla was hit hard today with $200+ million judgement even drive admitted he was distracted and his foot was on the gas at the time. “I thought the autopilot would stop “…..

 

[SteveC]

Was this a thing? Honestly didn’t know.


4 AS FAs from the plug door case are during Boeing for a very large amount.



Is this really a thing? Where’s the line drawn? Can one sue for emotional damages and injuries sustained during a “normal” emergency scenario that leads to an emergency landing and evac?

Now this DHing F/A on EDV is suing because she says…

Flight attendant claims Delta crash caused by UNDERQUALIFIED pilot

Vanessa Miles, 67, claimed she suffered severe injuries when a Delta plane crash-landed in Toronto and flipped upside down on February 17.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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Your source…SUCKS!

 

[MikeD]

As in most cases people go after the deepest pockets. If pilot X met the FAA quals then how was he unqualified?

I say that as Tesla was hit hard today with $200+ million judgement even drive admitted he was distracted and his foot was on the gas at the time. “I thought the autopilot would stop “…..

A car battery I had that I just replaced, had a fine print note on the sticker on it that said “do not drink water in battery”. What?!?!

All part of why we can’t have nice things

 

[knot4u]

A car battery I had that I just replaced, had a fine print note on the sticker on it that said “do not drink water in battery”. What?!?!

All part of why we can’t have nice things

The late '70s early '80s Honda ATCs had stickers on the frame warning that "Wheelies, Jumps and other Stunts are Dangerous!!!". No one ever read the stickers or paid any mind and eventually 3-wheelers were banned. Honda tried to warn us but people are dumb, I include myself in the dumb group. I rode dirt bikes and looked at ATCs as a sort of oddity, well I learned pretty quickly about that once I tried to scoot one around and couldn't figure out how to get around a turn. It was all caddywampus and I got sucked off the machine by one of the rear tires. That would be forgivable but I did the exact same thing not long after. Wheelies, jumps and other stunts were out of my league on those machines and my friends made them look effortless. They rode these sorts of monsters, I was assaulted by a 185...

 

[mwflyer]

Was this a thing? Honestly didn’t know.


4 AS FAs from the plug door case are during Boeing for a very large amount.



Is this really a thing? Where’s the line drawn? Can one sue for emotional damages and injuries sustained during a “normal” emergency scenario that leads to an emergency landing and evac?

Now this DHing F/A on EDV is suing because she says…

Flight attendant claims Delta crash caused by UNDERQUALIFIED pilot

Vanessa Miles, 67, claimed she suffered severe injuries when a Delta plane crash-landed in Toronto and flipped upside down on February 17.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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The lawsuit should be thrown out since she claimed the plane exploded once she exited. That never happened.

 

[///AMG]

Sitting here wondering when the class-action lawsuit against my landings from the FAs will arrive. I'm not in hiding. Not at all

 

[KLB]

Well in our society, there are people that purposely look for wet spots on freshly mopped floors that lack signage as spots to just so happen to slip and fall. There are also people that suddenly develop chronic neck pain from the smallest bumper to bumper accident.

They just can't help themselves when it comes ti scheming the system. I have distant relatives that are always looking for opportunities to do this.

 

[Richman]

Well in our society, there are people that purposely look for wet spots on freshly mopped floors that lack signage as spots to just so happen to slip and fall. There are also people that suddenly develop chronic neck pain from the smallest bumper to bumper accident.

They just can't help themselves when it comes ti scheming the system. I have distant relatives that are always looking for opportunities to do this.

It's essentially free money. Had a guy cackling that he actually invests in "litigation equity", meaning he pays into funds that fund this kind of thing.

 

[KLB]

It's essentially free money. Had a guy cackling that he actually invests in "litigation equity", meaning he pays into funds that fund this kind of thing.

This is essentially why all forms of insurance is so expensive on top of insurance companies' typical gouging tactics.

 

[Richman]

This is essentially why all forms of insurance is so expensive on top of insurance companies' typical gouging tactics.

I'm not 100% sure what to do about it. To wit:

1) Lots of money. Lots and lots of money. A ridiculous amount of money, and an industry that is extremely tied into the political system. Trying to peel that away from the people who's hand is on the lever will be neigh impossible.

2) Even if you do, what's the solution? Loser pays? Not saying that's worse than what we have, but it's got its problems, too. That lets the defendant run the bank on the plaintiff. Have the government run both sides? Ah, no, as they are always subject to political influence and if my time as a juror is any indication, rampant incompetence.

3) As you point out, you get wild judgements. The only way to protect yourself is insurance, which is seen as essentially free money. Insurance companies, even if they're on the up and up ain't no hippie commune, so they have to stay afloat, which means taking in more than they pay out.

4) Free money drives even 2nd & 3rd order motivations. Why should a contractor work on my house for a reasonable sum when he can go soak an insurance company for the same job for more money?

The legal system, health care costs, the cost of education...it's all part of the same 1d20 die. OMP wildly distorts the economics of any situation, and no matter how convoluted you make the game, someone will play it.

 

[derg]

The late '70s early '80s Honda ATCs had stickers on the frame warning that "Wheelies, Jumps and other Stunts are Dangerous!!!". No one ever read the stickers or paid any mind and eventually 3-wheelers were banned. Honda tried to warn us but people are dumb, I include myself in the dumb group. I rode dirt bikes and looked at ATCs as a sort of oddity, well I learned pretty quickly about that once I tried to scoot one around and couldn't figure out how to get around a turn. It was all caddywampus and I got sucked off the machine by one of the rear tires. That would be forgivable but I did the exact same thing not long after. Wheelies, jumps and other stunts were out of my league on those machines and my friends made them look effortless. They rode these sorts of monsters, I was assaulted by a 185...View attachment 84720

Those were big in the San Joaquin Valley. A loooooot of kids got hurt playing grabass on them at Pismo.

 

[derg]

Was this a thing? Honestly didn’t know.


4 AS FAs from the plug door case are during Boeing for a very large amount.



Is this really a thing? Where’s the line drawn? Can one sue for emotional damages and injuries sustained during a “normal” emergency scenario that leads to an emergency landing and evac?

Now this DHing F/A on EDV is suing because she says…

Flight attendant claims Delta crash caused by UNDERQUALIFIED pilot

Vanessa Miles, 67, claimed she suffered severe injuries when a Delta plane crash-landed in Toronto and flipped upside down on February 17.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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Ehh, you can file a lawsuit for absolutely anything in the world you’d like to for basically any reason.

I do know a guy that ran into another scenario, similar, where a misapplication of crosswind correction and a weird flare, by a highly experienced pilot on the aircraft (not me) banged a main down with a side load during an OE.

 

[KLB]

I'm not 100% sure what to do about it. To wit:

1) Lots of money. Lots and lots of money. A ridiculous amount of money, and an industry that is extremely tied into the political system. Trying to peel that away from the people who's hand is on the lever will be neigh impossible.

2) Even if you do, what's the solution? Loser pays? Not saying that's worse than what we have, but it's got its problems, too. That lets the defendant run the bank on the plaintiff. Have the government run both sides? Ah, no, as they are always subject to political influence and if my time as a juror is any indication, rampant incompetence.

3) As you point out, you get wild judgements. The only way to protect yourself is insurance, which is seen as essentially free money. Insurance companies, even if they're on the up and up ain't no hippie commune, so they have to stay afloat, which means taking in more than they pay out.

4) Free money drives even 2nd & 3rd order motivations. Why should a contractor work on my house for a reasonable sum when he can go soak an insurance company for the same job for more money?

The legal system, health care costs, the cost of education...it's all part of the same 1d20 die. OMP wildly distorts the economics of any situation, and no matter how convoluted you make the game, someone will play it.

All fair points. There really isn't a good solution to it. There are opportunist on all sides of this equation be it the citizens, the government, or the insurance companies.