Why is this still here
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Jeff_S_KDTW
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Is your citation correct? 61.23(c) doesn't seem to even have a section (3). Here is 61.23(c) in it's current entirety: [ QUOTE ]
(c) Operations requiring either a medical certificate or U.S. driver's license. (1) A person must hold and possess either a valid medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter or a current and valid U.S. driver's license when exercising the privileges of—
(i) A student pilot certificate while seeking sport pilot privileges in a light-sport aircraft other than a glider or balloon;
(ii) A sport pilot certificate in a light-sport aircraft other than a glider or balloon; or
(iii) A flight instructor certificate with a sport pilot rating while acting as pilot in command or serving as a required flight crewmember of a light-sport aircraft other than a glider or balloon.
(2) A person using a current and valid U.S. driver's license to meet the requirements of this paragraph must—
(i) Comply with each restriction and limitation imposed by that person's U.S. driver's license and any judicial or administrative order applying to the operation of a motor vehicle;
(ii) Have been found eligible for the issuance of at least a third-class airman medical certificate at the time of his or her most recent application (if the person has applied for a medical certificate);
(iii) Not have had his or her most recently issued medical certificate (if the person has held a medical certificate) suspended or revoked or most recent Authorization for a Special Issuance of a Medical Certificate withdrawn; and
(iv) Not know or have reason to know of any medical condition that would make that person unable to operate a light-sport aircraft in a safe manner.
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(c) Operations requiring either a medical certificate or U.S. driver's license. (1) A person must hold and possess either a valid medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter or a current and valid U.S. driver's license when exercising the privileges of—
(i) A student pilot certificate while seeking sport pilot privileges in a light-sport aircraft other than a glider or balloon;
(ii) A sport pilot certificate in a light-sport aircraft other than a glider or balloon; or
(iii) A flight instructor certificate with a sport pilot rating while acting as pilot in command or serving as a required flight crewmember of a light-sport aircraft other than a glider or balloon.
(2) A person using a current and valid U.S. driver's license to meet the requirements of this paragraph must—
(i) Comply with each restriction and limitation imposed by that person's U.S. driver's license and any judicial or administrative order applying to the operation of a motor vehicle;
(ii) Have been found eligible for the issuance of at least a third-class airman medical certificate at the time of his or her most recent application (if the person has applied for a medical certificate);
(iii) Not have had his or her most recently issued medical certificate (if the person has held a medical certificate) suspended or revoked or most recent Authorization for a Special Issuance of a Medical Certificate withdrawn; and
(iv) Not know or have reason to know of any medical condition that would make that person unable to operate a light-sport aircraft in a safe manner.
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Visceral
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I guess I should have posted the text. Its this:
(3) A third-class medical certificate for operations requiring a recreational pilot certificate, a private pilot certificate, a flight instructor certificate (when acting as pilot in command or a required pilot flight crewmember in operations other than glider or balloon), or a student pilot certificate issued--
(i) Before September 16, 1996, expires at the end of the 24th month after the month of the date of examination shown on the certificate;or
(ii) On or after September 16, 1996, expires at the end of:
What is special about that date? Since its over 8 years ago, could anyone presume a medical from that long ago to still be valid?
(3) A third-class medical certificate for operations requiring a recreational pilot certificate, a private pilot certificate, a flight instructor certificate (when acting as pilot in command or a required pilot flight crewmember in operations other than glider or balloon), or a student pilot certificate issued--
(i) Before September 16, 1996, expires at the end of the 24th month after the month of the date of examination shown on the certificate;or
(ii) On or after September 16, 1996, expires at the end of:
What is special about that date? Since its over 8 years ago, could anyone presume a medical from that long ago to still be valid?
Jeff_S_KDTW
New Member
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I can't figure it out. Did medicals ever last longer than 3 years maximum?
[/ QUOTE ]I'm still not sure I understand what you're trying to ask or imply with reference to the regulation. But, on its face I suppose the answer to your question is "No". I don't think the regulation you quoted suggests otherwise.
The regulation you referenced, which by the way is 61.23(d)(3), not (c), simply states that medicals issued before September 16, 1996 expire 24 calendar months (2 years) after the exam. Those medicals issued after September 16, 1996 have the benefit of the 3 year term for those under 40 years old and 2 year term for those over 40 years old.
Sorry if I'm not following you.
I can't figure it out. Did medicals ever last longer than 3 years maximum?
[/ QUOTE ]I'm still not sure I understand what you're trying to ask or imply with reference to the regulation. But, on its face I suppose the answer to your question is "No". I don't think the regulation you quoted suggests otherwise.
The regulation you referenced, which by the way is 61.23(d)(3), not (c), simply states that medicals issued before September 16, 1996 expire 24 calendar months (2 years) after the exam. Those medicals issued after September 16, 1996 have the benefit of the 3 year term for those under 40 years old and 2 year term for those over 40 years old.
Sorry if I'm not following you.
MidlifeFlyer
Well-Known Member
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I guess I should have posted the text. Its this:
(3) A third-class medical certificate
[snip]
issued--
(i) Before September 16, 1996, expires at the end of the 24th month after the month of the date of examination shown on the certificate;or
(ii) On or after September 16, 1996, expires at the end of:
What is special about that date?
[/ QUOTE ]Part 61 underwent a major revision in 1997 that went into effect in August 1997. Before then, no medical certificate lasted moire than 24 calendar months.
all (d)(3) does is say that if your medical certificate was issued before September 16, 1996, it comes under the old rule. If it was issues September 16, 1996 or later, it comes under the "new" rule.
Why is it still there after all these years? Too much bother to go through the whole process of changing it.
I guess I should have posted the text. Its this:
(3) A third-class medical certificate
[snip]
issued--
(i) Before September 16, 1996, expires at the end of the 24th month after the month of the date of examination shown on the certificate;or
(ii) On or after September 16, 1996, expires at the end of:
What is special about that date?
[/ QUOTE ]Part 61 underwent a major revision in 1997 that went into effect in August 1997. Before then, no medical certificate lasted moire than 24 calendar months.
all (d)(3) does is say that if your medical certificate was issued before September 16, 1996, it comes under the old rule. If it was issues September 16, 1996 or later, it comes under the "new" rule.
Why is it still there after all these years? Too much bother to go through the whole process of changing it.
MidlifeFlyer
Well-Known Member
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61.23c3 Does not appear in the 2005 FAR. I think that's the confusion here. It's in the 2004, but it must be one of the changes for 2005.
[/ QUOTE ]Nah, the confusion is, as Jeff pointed out, that the question involved (d)(3), not (c)(3)
61.23c3 Does not appear in the 2005 FAR. I think that's the confusion here. It's in the 2004, but it must be one of the changes for 2005.
[/ QUOTE ]Nah, the confusion is, as Jeff pointed out, that the question involved (d)(3), not (c)(3)
MidlifeFlyer
Well-Known Member
See why it's still there? The FAA changes a section and we can't even figure out where it is!
